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@Richard King
I think the 'why' is that all too often, ego trumps reason (at Adobe as well as in the rest of the world). If someone makes a programming/design mistake, they'd rather protect their ego, insisting they were right, rather than listening to users and admitting they were wrong.This same issue is also present when using the shape options in the Essential Graphic's window's New Layer menu. To get that fixed as well, please vote here: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/45693763-replace-new-layer-menu-in-eg-with-an-intelligent
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It's great to know about the Alt-Shift solution! It would be even better if Adobe staff actually read these FRs and when a solution already exists, they'd tell us about it.
Since most of the time, users will want the IN point respected, I highly suggest that this functionality be reversed:
Alt-drag = clip replaced while respecting IN point of replacement clip
Alt-Shift-drag = clip replaced from beginning of replacement clip
Why make the default behaviour the one most people don't ever want? This is completely illogical. Making the Alt-Shift behaviour the default when simply Alt-dragging would make this function a lot more discoverable for users!
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Hi Mike, you're correct. Pr provides consistency with Photoshop, but only IF the user clicks on a shape tool in the Tools panel. If the user clicks on a shape option in the EGP's 'New Layer' menu, there's no longer consistency with what users are used to in LT, Photoshop, etc.
What I'm suggesting is to keep EG tools consistent and most easily accessible where it matters most.... in the EGP. ;)
The design I suggest would also give users 1-click access to all 3 shapes, not just to the currently displayed one in the Tools panel (e.g. if the rectangle tool is displayed in the Tools panel, accessing the Ellipse tool is a 2-click process)
Hopefully this clarifies my request:
Current workflow
Pros: none (note: a 'cleaner/minimalist' interface is NOT a pro if it results in more downsides than benefits)
Cons:
1. not all users display the Tools panel, so shape buttons won't be visible to everyone.
2. no way to draw a symmetrical shape using just the EGP.
3. it takes 2 clicks instead of 1 to reach any option in the 'New Layer' menu.
4. it takes 2 clicks instead of 1 to access one of the non-displayed shapes in the Tools panel.My suggested workflow:
Pros: gets around all of the problems above
Cons: none that I can think ofIs the current design a deal-breaker? No. But is it as optimized as it could be? Not by a long shot. I don't even use shapes that much myself. But whenever I see something that could be optimized for the benefit of other users, I advocate for that change to be made, especially if it's all benefits, no downsides.
BTW, thank you starting this conversation. It's always beneficial for making sure we're on the same page.
If anything else that isn't clear, please let me know.
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I already addressed the fact that keyboard shortcuts can be assigned, but for seldom used tools, they're all too easily forgotten.
I'm not asking to move the tools panel to the EGP. Not sure where you got that idea from. The tools panel contains buttons that have nothing to do with the EGP, so it wouldn't make sense to move them there.
The options in the New Layer menu are not optimized vs simply having 1-click access buttons that also allow you to draw a symmetrical shape in a single step.
Did you look at the illustration I posted? It's rather self explanatory.
"create new shapes without using tools, and your workflow would be losing that capability."
Yes, that 'capability' would be lost, but does that matter at all considering that having a shape appear on screen is not preferable to being able to draw a symmetrical one in a single step? That sounds like more of an empty argument for argument's sake. What I suggest is that the EGW window work the way users are used to already in Pr's Legacy Titler, Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects. Consistency is king. Redesigning the wheel while providing no tangible benefits is poor UI design, plain and simple.An error occurred while saving the comment Pierre Louis Beranek
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@Mike
I know that Mike. That's why I wrote: "Note: While the Tools panel does allow 1-click access to shapes, users like myself that have a keyboard-centric workflow generally have no use for that panel, and therefore leave it out of their workspace to save space are reduce clutter."I haven't displayed the Tools panel for years since I use keyboard shortcuts instead. I could also assign shortcuts for each shape, which would give me 1-step access, but I don't use those enough that I'd readily remember them. ;)
Bottom line is that I don't see any logical reason not to display in the EG window those same EG buttons that are available in the Tools panel. It simply makes sense that they should be available directly in the EG window, don't you think?
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Hi Wes,
Just wanted to quickly follow up with the following observation:
Since most of the footage on my Timeline occupies V1 and V2, using the new Paste to same track option is of little to no help whatsoever when I copy media from those tracks and I want to paste media to a higher track to avoid overwriting media that's already on V1 or V2.
To avoid overwriting media by accident, the best option is always to paste to the highest enable video track (and enable a higher track that always remains clear of any media). As I mentioned before, I'm not advocating for this feature for myself since I already have it with the Excalibur plugin. I'm advocating for this feature for all of the users that don't use Excalibur.
Has anyone on the Pr team even tried Excalibur? I suggest you and your team try out the paste to highest track feature in Excalibur to see just how useful it is. I suspect no one on the Pr team tried it out yet, and that's why you decided to continue to leave out a feature that would be so beneficial to your users.
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Hi Wes, that's great news. Thank you for working on this. But why only provide a half solution? Why not also provide the options to paste and insert paste on the highest enabled video track? This is something that has been requested a long time ago, and it is functionality that's provided by the outstanding Excalibur plugin. It's nice to see this issue finally recieve some attention but it's disappointing to hear that it's only a half solution when a full solution, such as what Excalibur provides, could have just a well been implemented. Please consider providing a FULL solution. I use Excalibur myself, so I'm already benefiting from the full copy pasting solution it offers, but for the sake of all your users who don't use Excalibur, it would be a lot more beneficial to have a full copy pasting solution offered, especially given the fact that pasting to a higher track is often much more desirable than posting to the lowest enabled track for the simple reason that higher tracks naturally contain less media and therefore have more empty space to paste into without overwriting media.
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@Mike, what you suggest is an interesting idea, but it would have to be an on/off option. Not everyone would want it to work that way, myself and Alex Elkins included.
Btw, what's overly complicated about letting users set shortcuts for the pasting function(s) they want? ;)
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SOLVED!!!!!! There's no more need to wait for Adobe to fix this anymore! There's a new plug-in that just came out that allows us to simultaneously set shortcuts to 3 different pasting behaviors:
1. Paste to lowest enabled track
2. Paste to highest enabled track
3. Paste to same trackThis new plug-in doesn't just provide a solution to Pr's horrible pasting, but it also provides solutions to well over a dozen other common FRs. You can find out more about it here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1638270639681590/permalink/1766467540195232
You're welcome! ;)
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Hi James,
You wrote "but the current means of choosing which track to paste to is cumbersome". I agree. The option to paste to the highest enabled track would solve this problem once and for all.
Imagine a sequence with 5 video tracks that are always enabled. You only ever place media on V1-V4. This means that V5 would always be free to paste into without zero risk of overwriting something by mistake, and no need to ever adjust which tracks are enabled beforehand. Problem solved! (Note: If you copy or cut/paste media that occupied 2 or more tracks, new V tracks will automatically be created. To continue pasting to V5, simply don't enable any of the newly created tracks)
Editing in a timeline with no tracks enabled is impractical given Pr's reliance on track enabling for basic shortcuts to work (cut, go to next/previous edit point, etc.)
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Hi Tom,
The point of the Facebook group is to offer another venue where people who care about Pr can discuss ways to improve our favorite NLE. It isn't a replacement to Adobe User Voice, but rather an addition to it, with posts linking back to official FRs here. Plus there are some Adobe reps in the group. It's a new group, so it's still very small, so if you'd like to check it out and join, you're more than welcome!
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Hi TaranVH, how can I merge my FR into the one you suggest? I'm not sure how to do that. Thank you!
BTW, I'd love to see you on the FB group I started for discussing ways we can help Adobe improve Pr. Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1638270639681590/
:)
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Hi Alex, by 'paste into new track' do you mean Pr should automatically create a new video track to paste into?
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Although it would be nice to have this work natively in Pr so that it's available to everyone, there IS a workaround using the Excalibur plugin:
You need to create a 3-step macro:
1. Keyboard shortcut to change focus to Project window
2. Keyboard shortcut to assign label to the clip that is currently selected
3. Keyboard shortcut to return the focus to the Source MonitorUsing this Macro, while reviewing clips loaded into my Source Monitor, I can easily mark bad clips for deletion once I finish my project simply by hitting 0 on my num pad (changing that clip's label to brown) see illustration 'Mark for deletion'
For this to work, however, you need to have a single clip selected in the Project window, and it needs to match the clip in the Source Monitor that you are currently viewing. That means that selecting a range of clips to load into the Source Monitor won't work. Once again, Excalibur comes to the rescue!
You need to create another 3-step Macro for opening your clips one by one in the Source Monitor:
1. Keyboard shortcut to change focus to Project window
2. Down arrow key to select the next clip in the list
3. Keyboard shortcut to Open in Source Monitor (this step automatically changes the focus back to the Source Monitor)
(note: for this to work properly, you need to be in list view OR if you're in thumbnail view, your window needs to be narrow enough so that a single column of thumbnails is visible, otherwise the down arrow key will select the next thumbnail under the currently selected one, ignoring any clips to the left and/or right of it)The advantage to opening your clips like this rather than selected a range to open at the same time is that the limit of 51 clips that can be opened in the Source Monitor will no longer be a problem. Once you've viewed enough clips one by one to fill the Source Monitor to it's 51 clip capacity, opening a 52nd, 53rd clip and more will simply close the first clip in the list, and so forth.
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@Henry
A better workaround than nesting is to increase the scale by 0.1. Any scale other than 50, such as 50.1, solves the issue. If you get Excalibur, the #1 plugin for Pr, you can create a macro and give it a keyboard shortcut. I have mine set to Ctrl Shift W. With just that one shortcut, I increase the scale by 0.1, add the WS effect, and I add a marker with the text 'Stabilized' so that I know which clips in my timeline are stabilized! It works amazingly well!An error occurred while saving the comment Pierre Louis Beranek
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Frankly, with the new import and export interfaces in PR22.3, it should be clear as a bell that Adobe simply doesn't care about addressing the issues or shortcomings that affect us most. I can picture a Pr staff member saying... "Bug in Warp Stabilizer? Yawn! But did you see the new, completely overhauled interfaces we designed?! Yeah, we're proud to waste our limited resources on things no one asks us for while ingnoring the most pressing issues!" At this point, it almost feels as if the Pr team has contempt for us users!
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Just experienced this issue for the first time ever on version 14.3.1. Very frustrating! Thank you for the scaling tip Juan! Setting my 4k footage in FullHD timeline to 50.01% solves the problem! This issue needs to be fixed quick.
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You're right James, EG titles can indeed be upgraded to a Source Graphic and thus appear in the Project window. I never used that function so I had forgotten about it. Unfortunately, Source Graphics don't allow users to Alt-drag-replace as you mention.
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Please DO NOT eliminate the Legacy Title creator in future updates.
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We understand that retiring a part of the software can create issues for some users. We are doing our best to make this a slow and steady process and are adding needed features along the way. Most importantly, we have added the ability to convert Legacy Titles into Source Graphics. While not all characteristics will translate perfectly, this should give you really good results in most cases. We’re not just taking something away, we’re adding functionality to Essential Graphics constantly. Our team is working hard to make sure it meets your workflow needs. And if it doesn’t - we want to know about it. If you feel that there is a specific feature missing in Essential Graphics please create a single UserVoice post for it, e.g. for Inner and Outer Strokes. This way it is much easier for others to vote on something actionable. Please take a look at our…
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@James Brady
That's an excellent point James! The ability to Alt-drag-replace a title or clip on the Timeline with another clip or title that's already on the Timeline is sorely missing in Pr.Given the fact that EG titles only appear on the Timeline, not being able to Alt-drag-replace items on the Timeline with other items on the Timeline is going to become an even bigger issue once LT is axed (LT titles could always be Alt-drag-replaced from the Project window).
Here's a new Feature Request I just posted that addresses this concern, while expanding on the idea with an additional keyboard modifier for deciding on the fly which effects/keyframes are preserved - Clip A's or Clip B's:
https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/45640189-alt-drag-to-replace-clip-on-timeline-with-anotherI'd love to know what you think!
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In case it's of interest to anyone participating in this thread, I've compiled a list of 25 issues still present in Essential Graphics, along with links to related User Voice feature requests. You can take a look at the attached PDF.
Does anyone know of any issues that are missing on my list?
By being aware in advance of the various issues still present in EG, I believe we'll be able to have a more productive meeting tomorrow.An error occurred while saving the comment Pierre Louis Beranek
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I agree with you 100% Andrew. I also much prefer the layout of the LT. Compared to the LT, the new EG panel doesn't feel optimized for several reasons I've pointed out in various feature requests on User Voice. Thankfully they didn't just cut LT all at once, giving us a transition period to adapt. It's curious that cutting the LT appears to be a necessity. There must be reasons for this that non-programmers like myself don't understand. With the LT soon to disappear, I see myself creating more custom MGRTS in AE. It's a good workaround especially if you want your titles to animate.
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Sergiu's assessment is, sadly and unfortunately, spot on.
Adobe seems to want to force us to adapt to its vision of doing things, even when doing so has absolutely zero benefits for end users and is nothing but a detriment to our workflows.
Case in point: the continued insistence that universal selection conventions need not be respected in Pr - https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41277514-fix-selection-inconsistencies-in-timeline-ecp?fbclid=IwAR0dqF-txsgxLMQqiI85W7qiC1RAXjUxPHY_P1yJLtXaA9ZtPx2NHFK0UNo (see illustration)
When will the culture at Adobe become less one of "We'll do it our way" and more one of respect? i.e. Respect for users, for world-wide software conventions, for thoughtful consistency between (and even within) Adobe apps, for basic logic and for decency such as not wasting resources on petty things no one ever asked for (or did any user ever ask for Adobe's app icons to be changed to new colours everyone hates?)
I appreciate the feedback from Adobe staff, but actions speak much louder than words, and the words all too often are to say "we're not going to do what you want", as Sergiu points out.
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@Annika "So thank you to everyone who has invested the time. The team sees it. I also want to ask to keep the tone respectful. No harm in being critical, but we are all humans here."
Thank you for your words Annika. There certainly are times that Adobe members participate and therefore we feel heard, but more times than not, what we get in exchange for the time and effort we put in our FRs, votes and comments (for free, mind you, unlike paid Adobe staff) is the sound of crickets. Sometimes the silence is truly hard to understand. For example, with regards to the gaffe Adobe made when changing the colours of its app icons, rather than simply admitting the error and fixing it promptly, dozens of FR posts requesting the reversal of that gaffe were met with silence for a long time. Situations like this erode trust between a company and it's users. How long would it have taken someone at Adobe to fix this gaffe? 1-3 hours? A day? After all, fixing something like that should be as simple as swapping the new icons everyone hates with the old ones people liked.
I think open, straightforward communication like in your post goes a long way towards building trust. More of it from Adobe team members is always welcome! Of course, words also needs to be met with action, and I think fixing some of the little things that would be a quick fix for Adobe Engineers yet speak volumes towards the company's consideration of its users is a good start.
I also think that the reason many users are dismayed by the coming loss of LT is because EG has been such an abject failure at performing some of the most basic things imaginable, such as resizing titles/shapes. Why was the perfectly functional resizing design in LT, Photoshop and Illustrator thrown out the window to be replace by EG's junk resizing code? It's a given that some users (and perhaps even Adobe staff members) won't complain about EG's lack of asset resizing options, but it's also a given that they're the wrong people to consult about design changes! The right people to consult are those who use and understand multi Adobe app workflows and who recognize and respect the incredible value of keeping things consistent whenever doing so is beneficial, by not redesigning the wheel when there's no need to.
I agree that Adobe staff members are humans and deserve respect.
Adobe's users are also humans that deserve respect... and over time, far too many design decisions and omissions have revealed a lack of understanding of and/or respect for our needs. Thus the palpable frustration that can be heard in this thread because of eroded trust. You post is a step in the right direction towards building trust so, once again, thank you!And as always, thank you for listening!
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I agree 100% with Taran. Confirmation bias is a very real thing, and Microsoft's Windows 8 is proof of that.
When determining what users want/need in Pr, it's important to consult the right users, not just the greatest number of users (and certainly not the meek "I'm cool with whatever" users who are mostly responsible for confirmation bias in the first place) ;) After all, a lot of people don't even know what they want until they get it because they don't have the imagination to think of better ways of doing things.
I'd put incredibly dedicated and smart users like TaranVH at the top of the list of users who should be consulted before changes are made. I'd add myself to that list, as someone who's contributed more FRs then 99% of Pr users. And I'd add programming geniuses like Sir Ivan to the list as well (he's the genius behind the Excalibur plugin which absolutely should be on the radar of every single Pr team member since it not only points out dozens of shortcomings in Pr, but actually fixes them).
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Hi Mike, first of all, thanks again for participating in this thread! I'm sure everyone appreciates it, myself included.
The Styles option in EG that replaces the Styles tab that used to be available in the LT is very strange: Why replace a visual grid of styles (LT) with a text-only drop down list (EG)?
Are there plans to turn the current text-only list of EG Styles into a more visual interface? Perhaps an option to display a pop out window all saved styles displayed visually? I don't think there's any need to explain why a visual approach is better than text only since it's rather self explanatory.
Thanks!
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I agree 100% with James that it would be helpful to have EG titles default as Source Graphics. This should be a user selectable option though. I'll add this idea to the Source Graphics thread I've been participating on in the Adobe Support Community. Here's the link if you'd like to check it out James, or anyone else: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta/discuss-upgrade-legacy-titles-to-essential-graphics/m-p/12039710#M3257.
And thanks for chiming in Mike. I agree with other posters that seeing more interaction from Adobe reps would be a big step towards creating a better sense of community here on User Voice.
I find there's much more interaction from Adobe reps on Adobe Support Community posts asking for feedback about new features than there is here on User Voice. It's too bad that sometimes that interaction seems intent on ignoring/discrediting real issues we point out with new tools/designs, but even in these cases, interaction is still better than none at all.
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I feel this FR thread is going to explode now that v15.2 users are getting messages about the official demise of the Legacy Titler (LT).
Given that zero effort seems to have been put on maintaining the LT in recent years (LT is only getting worse as its features get axed), would any programming effort actually be needed to keep it around until EG at least matches LT in basic functionality?
While it's true that EG outperforms LT in some significant ways, it also fails to match some of LT's most basic functionality, such as:
1. Adding use adjustable rounded corners to a square/rectangle
2. Providing an easy way to preserve a shape's aspect ratio while resizing it towards any direction/corner.
3. Providing intelligent ways to resize titles and shapes in general (Resizing anything in EG is a disaster compared to LT. Here are 12 ways it can be fixed by matching LT's incredibly comprehensive resizing behaviors/keyboard modifiers: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41079490-fix-the-way-essential-graphics-resize
4. Missing previews for font styles
5. A way to easily create/view alternative versions of titles that don't interfere with our edit (see illustration): https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43436316-see-eg-titles-outside-bounds-of-program-monitor-sc
6. An incredibly easy 1-step way to decide on the fly if a title in the Timeline should be duplicated (by cutting or copy/pasting title) or have a new, completely independent version created (by alt-dragging title)Etc, etc, etc...
Let's keep the conversation alive in the hopes Adobe will listen to at least match EG in basic LT functionality before axing it. We've been using LT for years now, so even if EG is far superior in some aspects, it's of little consolation to editors who stand to lose so many basic titling features.
As always, thanks for listening!
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And thank you for your response James! It's always so nice to know there's someone at the other end of UserVoice taking our feedback into account! If there's any other way I can help Adobe with improving Pr, it will be my pleasure!
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Hi James and Dacia,
Here's another issue with the new EGP:
When typing a new block of text in a title, hitting 'Esc' to exit text editing does not automatically change to the selection tool as in does in the Legacy Titler. In order to move/resize/rotate the newly created title, the user also needs to hit 'V'. This is inconsistent with the simpler/easier workflow people are used to in the Legacy Titler.
Official FR for this to be fixed here: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41538067-egp-change-workflow-to-modify-newly-typed-title-f
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After typing a new title in the EGP, it's frustrating to have to press both 'Esc' followed by 'V' before the title can be moved or resized in the Program Monitor.
The approach used in the Legacy Titler is much better:
When typing a title, hitting 'Esc' automatically exits typing AND reverts back to the Selection tool in a single step.This is a better approach for 3 reasons:
1. 1 step is easier/faster/less frustrating than 2 steps.
2. MANY titles consist of a single block of text, so while the EGP's approach does make it easier for a user to create additional blocks of texts (2 steps [Esc + click on new text location] vs 3 steps like in the Legacy Titler [Esc + T + click]), users would most often benefit from saving a step to modify their newly created title rather than saving a step to create an additional block of text within the same title.
3. It would keep the workflow consistent with the Legacy Titler, which isn't just more logical and useful, but also more familiar to long time Pr users.Little quirks like this might not seem like a big deal, but they present repeated points of frustration. Pain points should be eliminated as much as possible when forcing users to transition from a legacy tool to a newer version of it.
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Hi Dacia,
I'm glad you found my suggestions for fixing EGP assets resizing useful! Feedback from Adobe reps means a lot to us, so thank you!
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Hi James S,
Thanks for chiming in! There's a lot of issues with resizing Shapes and Text in Essential Graphics. I point out 12 issues and suggested solutions here:
https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41079490-keyboard-modifiers-to-control-resizing-of-eg-title?fbclid=IwAR16rJMZRJlPUgteAaswvlkHZwXN0W5fLEOrR3ThvQ6yZEy_Ae1wyTrkZy4I also started a FB group to discuss FRs, in case you'd be interested in checking it out. Here's the same FR on my FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1638270639681590/permalink/1644399235735397/
Question: How can Pr users request to be selected to provide insights through a user study? I would love the opportunity to further assist Adobe through this venue as well!
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Hi Dacia,
2 big ways Essential Graphics could be improved (and begin truly competing with the Legacy Titler):
1. Fix the way EG titles/shapes are resized. Currently, it's an utter disaster (or 'garbage' as Luke MacDonald would say ;) https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41079490-fix-the-way-essential-graphics-resize
2. Fix the way fonts are displayed. There currently seems to be zero consistency with how fonts are displayed between Adobe programs and even within Pr itself https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41109709-improve-font-lists-in-egp-and-ecp
Thanks for listening! If anything isn't clear in those FRs, I'd be glad to elaborate!
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Premiere's Program Monitor has BLUE bounding boxes.
The Legacy Titler has WHITE bounding boxes.
WHITE AIN'T RIGHT! Why?
Because pure white bounding boxes become invisible anytime an editor is editing against a pure white background... and that's just purely stupid!
PLEASE MAKE ALL BOUNDING BOXES BLUE!
This fix is literally as easy as Adobe changing 1 number in Pr's code: the variable that controls the color of bounding boxes in the Legacy Titler.
Adobe, if you're going to arbitrarily change colors, as you did in CC14.3 by changing the color of software icons (something certainly no one ever asked for and that's of no benefits to anyone), could you at least change the color of bounding boxes in the Legacy Titler to blue? Pretty please?!
BTW, the cursor should also be changed from pure white to blue (or red, as is the case when editing Essential Graphics Titles).
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This issue is also present in the Essential Graphics window. :( It needs to be fixed.
Here's another way of solving the problem that's probably better than my original suggesting of clicking on a drop-down menu to activate mouse scrolling:
The scrollable area of a drop-down menu should be reduced to just the drop-down arrow icon, thus significantly reducing the risk of unwanted menu scrolling! This would reduce accidental menu scrolling by around 97-99%. For users that would prefer to still be able to scroll a drop-down menu while mousing over any part of its bar, perhaps a keyboard modifier such as Ctrl could be required.
The problem with my original suggestion of clicking on the menu is that doing so opens the menu first, before scrolling can begin. This can be annoying and even prevent the user from scrolling until they close the menu first.
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Sadly, rather than fix this and the other small minor bugs that existed in the previous Export window, Adobe "threw out the baby with the bathwater" and replaced the complete interface with an abomination
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Hi Baffy19, here's an animated tracking .mogrt I designed for Pr: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aju6wd22utJDiYpcuP544vjuQxfq-w?e=H5gA1N
It allows you to customize everything. Hope it helps you out!
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I'd love to see this in Pr! For now, I have an AE project with a tracking-animated title that automatically gets added to each new project I create through Post Haste. Film Impact transitions now offer several per-character animation inside Pr, so there's no reason tracking animation needs to be relegated to AE.
Out of ALL character animation options, the one I use 99% of the time is tracking. Anything more complex than that I'm perfectly okay with having to go to AE (or Film Impact) for. :)
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This new FR is related to this other previous FR of mine, which includes an additional idea on how the hand tool could work in the Effect Controls window: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41866903-hand-tool-in-effect-controls-panel?fbclid=IwAR1xnRHKLykaJT20RAV915vtZY8z87nNdVh_U9HPYvwnnbDP9SWj0epSxK8
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Note: while it's currently possible to use the Alt keyboard modifier to zoom in/out of the Timeline with the scroll wheel, this functionality is broken since the zooming does not center on the playhead, as it does if using keyboard shortcuts for zoom in, zoom out. Please see this FR regarding this bug: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/37425031-requesting-that-the-mouse-wheel-will-zoom-in-on-th.
For the sake of consistency, should the Ctrl key modifier be selected by Adobe for zooming everywhere else, it would be nice for users to be able to set zooming in the Timeline to the same modifier (while changing the Alt modifier from zooming to scrolling).
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This FR is closely related to this one, which contain a diagram of functionality:
Please take a look at that FR as well.
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I'd like to add that Ctrl+scroll wheel zooming could also be used in:
-The EG window to change the size of thumbnails
-The Effect Controls Window, to zoom in/out of the of its Timeline view (for even more functionality here, an additional modifier, such as Ctrl+Shift+scroll could allow users to zoom outside the bounds of the clip by temporarily ignoring ‘Pin to Clip’!)Pierre Louis Beranek
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Note: It isn't essential to close all clips after they've been reviewed. Having 51 clips open and opening another 51 will automatically replace the 51 open clips. But this isn't much of a time saver since in order to start with a clean slate of new clips to review, the user has to be careful to select exactly 51 new clips to open each time. This is in order to replace ALL of the currently open clips, and thus avoid mixing unreviewed clips with reviewed ones.
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@David Rivera
When modern computers are perfectly adequate at editing interframe codec clips such as H.264 without any hiccups, but the software being used huff's and puffs just to display thumbnails for those very same clips, the issue isn't the computer nor the user's workflow, but the unoptimization of the software itself.When you create proxies, those proxies don't need to be recreated every time you open your project, right? Well, this same basic logic should apply to thumbnails too.
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On my Windows PC, this issue was annoying but now on my 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro, it's downright aggravating. While editing, the thumbnails in my timeline often disappear completely and then quickly start redrawing one by one, slowing everything down, before disappearing again and redrawing in a constant loop, 3-5 times before the nonsense ends. Once this bug begins, it seems to keep happening until I reopen my project. Anyone else seeing this problem on a MacBook? It never happened on my Windows computer or on my 13.3" M1 MacBook Pro but that could simply be due to the fact I used prior versions on Pr on that MacBook.
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Hi Antoine, the number of files in a bin makes no difference whatsoever in the processing of thumbnails as far as I can tell since whether you have 50 or 500, it will only generate thumbnails for the 20 or so files that are currently in view. Even if you open a bin, take a 30 minute break and come back, none of the files that are out of view will have a thumbnail. They'll get generated only once they're scrolled into view. This design is complete insanity and part of the reason I'm so annoyed with the Pr team for spending so many resources on interface redesigns that are of little help (ie. New import/output pages) while continuing to neglect massive problems like this one. A lot of people talk about background rendering. How about that rendering include thumbnails too?! Render files don't disappear every time you reopen a project, so why should thumbnails?! Adobe's silence on this issue is quite telling.
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@Antoine it's painfully slow in the Project window in both icon and list view. Worst of all, previews aren't generated until clips are brought into view. So even twirling a bin open will only generate previews for the files currently visible in the Project window. 4K long gop video files further down out of view will grind things to a halt when the user scrolls down, bringing them into view, a Pr generates new thumbnails for them. These should be rendered in the background once and then saved for whenever the project is reopened.
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For now, the best solution is to assign a keyboard shortcut to make it easy to turn thumbnails off so they don't slow you down. You can assign the same shortcut to turn thumbnails on/off in both the Timeline and the Project window, depending on which one is the active window! (see illustration)
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I agree with Alex. Workarounds are not a solution. Fixing this should be at the very top of Adobe's To Do list.
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Alex Elkins is correct. Turning off thumbnails as David suggests isn't any more of a solution to the problem than saying 'use FCPX instead' would be. This problem needs to be fixed, not just avoided.
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Adobe, this is the number 1 most frustrating issue while editing in Premiere! Please fix this before working on any new features. Waiting for thumbnails to generate is a life-sucking, creativity-killing affair! Thumbnails should be auto-generated in the background and then saved so they don't need to be regenerated every time a project is opened!
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@Kevin Monahan
Since this issue has been recognized and is being worked on, shouldn't the status of this BR be changed to "In Progress"?