Pete Grayson
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AdminPatrick Palmer
(Director of Product Management, Pro Video and Motion Design, Adobe DVA)
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All,
first of all I wanted to thank everyone for making this a productive conversation over the last couple of days.
As several people responded to my comment about keeping the tone civilised, I need to dwell on that for a minute. Please hear me out, this is important to everyone on my crew and I hope it will be to you.
Saying that we shouldn't be surprised when things get heated is very problematic in my opinion. How do you expect a junior person on my team to respond to a technical question when it is combined with something that can easily be described as hate speech? How do you think we can actually come together on actual issues when there's already the assumption that we're a big faceless corporation, not even listening to our customers?
People on my team have received threats. I've been there over the years,…
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I've just installed the new update that came out today and I was really hoping to see some tweaks that would make the new export interface smoother and quicker, however, Adobe have not listened to a single one of the complaints or issues laid out in this thread. The interface is still clunky and slower to use, but if I want to use Premiere, which I do, it's very clear that I just have to take whatever Adobe gives me. I really wish they had listened, as some high end users in this thread put forward valid points and great ideas that could have made the new interface better.
I can't waste my time watching this thread and hoping any more. You win Adobe Premiere team, unfortunately that means that this time, your pro users lose.
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My stars! I just tried to use the new New Project interface for the first time. I won't be doing that again. Why not just use the Apple UI to choose where you're going to put your file, like...every other app on the planet?
Please Patrick and team - Roll back...ROLL BACK. These overall changes are unnecessary and really do just slow everything down so much.
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Ok, so here’s my idea; under the YouTube and other presets on the left, add a ‘Pro’ button that opens the old interface. Then let us assign a shortcut to it. Everybody wins!
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To everyone who says they have spoken to multiple editors who also have issues with the new export window, please ask them to come in and upvote this thread.
If the number keeps going up it can't be ignored.
And yes, let's keep this civil. We are all angry, but the team responsible thought they were helping us by creating this new version. They didn't, but they thought they were.
@Antione, thanks for the great offer of trying to fix this with a plugin, but it really does need to be repaired at the source. That said, if Adobe stick with this mess, I'll put my hand up to give feedback on a plugin.
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So I downloaded the latest version yesterday to see what improvements have been made to the export situation.
The fact that I can once again use a previous filename to pre-fill the new filename is a welcome return.
That's it so far. Still clunky, over-engineered and frustrating.
I used an existing filename to overwrite an existing file and had to confirm that I wanted to overwrite it 3 times. 3 TIMES??? Such a waste of time. One confirmation is a great way to not accidentally overwrite a file. It used to be 2 and that was a little annoying, but now 3. I really don't understand.
I think just getting rid of the 'More' button in Video and having those extra settings already open to just scroll down to would be a huge thing. Then out the Audio tab next to it and leave the rest below.
The absolute best thing would be to make the whole thing floatable to we can arrange our own export window.
An error occurred while saving the comment Pete Grayson
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Hi all,
I haven't had a chance to roll back yet, as I started a small project before I realised what was happening with the export window. I've been slowly fumbling my way through exports using the new UI, but I just decided to send one to Media Encoder to remind myself why I was upset and oh my, when I saw the old export window pop I got emotional. There it was in all it's glory. An easy to use, quick, familiar interface that just works.
I miss it so much I was suddenly torn between sorrow and anger. As I've said before, I'm not opposed to change, but wow, this change was too big and far too clunky and slowifying (coined) to just drop on us all in this way. Yes, I know, research, focus groups etc etc, but like many here, I just can't comprehend how positivity was found in these changes overall. Reorganising to speed us up would always be welcome, but this is not that. Not by a long shot.
Cheers
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Our Japanese colleague said:
I can't see the name from an existing file on the new export page! !!
I really want this to come back! !! !!An error occurred while saving the comment Pete Grayson
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Thanks for the feedback Patrick.
Firstly, I've just been sitting here exporting a series of rough edits for a client and I think the most frustrating thing is the fact that I have to click "...MORE" to get to the bitrate and other settings. Having it open and clicking "...LESS" if you want to would be my preference as the default.
The reason I don't want to create a bunch of presets is that my output settings change a lot throughout a project and I would like to not have to scroll through a lot of self-made presets to attempt find one that suits what I'm trying to output at that time. That's a massive slow down for my workflow.
For example, I create a lot of content for probably the biggest car company in the world, certainly the oldest. I create a very large variety of outputs, including TVCs, youtube content, instagram content, car specific app content, visual effects videos and much more. I can create multiple versions of one specific piece of content to suit different output requirements. These will usually differ for almost every piece of video I'm creating. Depending where I am at any time in the process of a specific video, I'll need to vary my export settings, from bitrate, to whether or not I require timecode burn in etc. Creating presets for all of these is just not feasible, as needs change a lot and requirements will be different for so many pieces of the content I make.
As far as beginners being able to 'find' the export window, we have all been beginners at one time and we all managed to find the export window just fine.
I agree with those asking for a floating window, or even better the ability to move and attach the window elsewhere as we can almost all others.
I look forward to seeing what changes come in the next version, however I'll remain rolled back on my main machine until becomes usable.
As a positive, though separate area, I frickin love the transcription abilities you've added. It has changed my world when looking for a replacement word in an interview. It's still clunky as heck, but I'm looking forward to seeing the next version.
Thanks for listening!
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Here is an example of part of my workflow that has completely gone:
Hit the shortcut to export
Set the settings, set the destination and file name
Export and send to client
Have the client ask for a change
Make the change
Hit export
Click on the destination
Click on the previous file to overwrite, or use the same name and alter the version number at the end
Don't touch the settings as I have already set them.
Export again.Two integral parts to this workflow have now completely gone and losing them has slowed down this workflow remarkably. That is:
The ability to have the export setting autosave once set for a sequence
Click the destination and set the name using a previous exportPlease bring these back!
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I've been using this a lot over the last few days and I've gotten used to the new layout. It's still terrible and time consuming. I'm rolling back until Adobe do something about this.
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The fact that the export window no longer keeps the settings of the previous export is terrible. Having to change the settings every time is ridiculously time consuming. Everything us pro editors do is designed to make our workflow faster, but this slowed me down at lease 9 times today alone. Having to go into effects and turn on the timecode setting, having to expand the video window for H264 to change the bitrate. I usually want the same settings repeatedly during rough cuts, This is crazy.
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Same issue on 22.5.0
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AdminFergus Hammond
(Product Manager, Video & Audio Cloud Workflows, Adobe DVA)
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Hi Pete,
We're aware of this problem. It was a side effect of restoring the ability to set the filename from a previously exported file. We decided it was important to restore that ability quickly. We do plan to fix the duplicate (two duplicate!) warnings in an upcoming release.
Regards,
Fergus
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I second this!
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Patrick wasn't lying when he said we're stuck with this new atrocity. I just installed to Beta version of Premiere and the export window hasn't changed a bit. Not even the stuff that is so obviously slowing workflow.
Game over folks. Time to change NLE, or get used to the new world order. I'm sticking with this POS because of years of muscle memory, but that's all. There's no point posting here anymore. Adobe are just ignoring us till we go away.
EDIT: Though you'd think over 500 votes now would elicit some kind of response.