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    Thanks for all the feedback. It’s pretty clear that we’ve got to look into the workflow using this format more closely, there are enough reports about gaps at this point to reopen this item. I’ll post more info about next steps shortly. In the meantime, a couple of questions are easy to answer:

    - The plugin is designed for Premiere Pro. It currently doesn’t provide support for After Effects.
    - It does work with AME, so if you want to use it for batch processing, that’s very doable
    - If you’ve started a project with Autokroma, there’s no easy way to transfer it to be running with the new plugin.

    Patrick

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    John commented  · 

    Antoine, any word on when you think Autokroma's BRAW Studio for AFTER EFFECTS might be ready? ETA?

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    John commented  · 

    Antoine, is it possible to make Autokroma BRAW Studio give us the functionality to copy paste BRAW settings when pasting attributes to another clip?

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    John commented  · 

    Antoine, does BRAW Studio work with After Effects?

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    John commented  · 

    So if what you're saying is true, we should buy BRAW Studio from Autokroma with confidence that it will likely be the ONLY version of this that will ever exist whether Adobe buys it or not. Well if that's the case, I guess we should all buy and test BRAW Studio and support Antoine as it will give him the financial resources to perfect this more quickly. I think most would agree that his simple one-time fee for this plugin is worth it; especially if it's actually going to be THE plugin of the future for this.

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    John commented  · 

    I do find it interesting that the votes for Blackmagic RAW have surpassed the votes for ProRes RAW in about half the time. Probably because the ProRes RAW users have all gone to FCPX. Just as the Blackmagic RAW users are all starting to go to Davinci Resolve. Pretty soon there won't be any votes because no one will be using Premiere anymore.

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    John commented  · 

    This is interesting.

    The support ProRes RAW post/page has 1045 Votes and was originally posted over a year ago.

    The Support Blackmagic RAW post/page has 1043 Votes as of today, and was posted about seven (7) months ago.

    Adobe hasn't indicated that they are supporting either one yet.

    As ProRes RAW and Blackmagic RAW are becoming the new 'Go-to' formats for ALL future camera manufacturers, by not supporting these formats, Adobe is essentially making themselves obsolete for video editing.

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    John commented  · 

    This is interesting. There is a 'Support ProRes RAW' page/post similar to this one that has nearly the same number of votes in over a year as this page has had in only 6 months. https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/33864517-support-for-prores-raw

    It doesn't look like Adobe is supporting that codec either... yet...

    I understand a large company like Adobe trying to 'get around to it'. I know there are schedules, and priorities, and maybe a few unseen obstacles they are not revealing at this time. But a simple word of comfort to an eager audience takes little to no effort, and it would keep the wolves at bay for a little while. We'd love to hear a: "Hey, we haven't forgotten about you guys" and "we're still looking into it but no definite ETA yet". Just a one sentence response/update from Patrick would be awesome!

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    John commented  · 

    Patrick Palmer, I suspect that the only reason you haven't responded is because your hands are tied. If you're reading this you should take this message back to your team. Everyone who has voted or commented here has done so because they are loyal to Adobe. They desperately want to continue to use Adobe with Blackmagic RAW. These are your most loyal fans, and they are being ignored almost insultingly. I don't know what is going on over there, but Adobe is losing a very large and imprtant audience. If I can't get some kind of word back from Adobe giving me some kind of hope that I will be able to use Blackmagic RAW, then you will literally force me to use Davinci Resolve and Fusion. If that happens, know that there's no coming back to Adobe. Blackmagic Design is growing. Their products are becoming wildly popular and their NLE more robust by the day. This audience consists of the professionals who want to spend time on professional projects rather than the general public ametuer. We have more money. We have more influence in the industry. When all is said and done, the ametuers will ask us; the professionals, what is the latest and greatest cameras, software and workflow. We are the trendsetters. We are the voice of what will because popular next. And you are rejecting us. When this goes down, don't forget. You rejected us.

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    John commented  · 

    Dear Adobe, you should see the front page of Blackmagic Design's website today:. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com : "Davinci Resolve 16 - The Revolution of Editing starts 9:00 AM, April 8, 2019". I have always used Premiere and After Effects and love the software. But I also love the look of Blackmagic Cameras and the Fe size and power of BRAW. There have been reasons for why I didn't want to switch over to Davinci Resolve. However, it sounds like they may be doing something revolutionary on Monday. If it's enough to impress me, I will likely take my $600 a year and leave Adobe forever. However, if Adobe actually cared enough to give me a status update and hope that BRAW would be available soon, I will likely stay with Adobe. I guess we'll have to see what happens on Monday.

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    John commented  · 

    I don't think Adobe has a problem with Blackmagic. I've read that the CDNG thing is possibly a RED patent issue. I think for Adobe it's more just a matter of 'priorities' and how many people really want it, and maybe a little of just 'getting around to it'.

    I suspect that if everyone who has already posted here were to post this page's link to multiple Blackmagic BRAW forums and social media, and encourage everyone who cares to VOTE and COMMENT, the algorithms generated from this page would flag it as a PRIORITY and we might see it implemented faster.

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    John commented  · 

    Wow. 314 Comments, 857 Votes and over six months of Radio Silence, with the exception of one "We're looking into it" from December.

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    John commented  · 

    POTENTIAL $60M LOSS TO ADOBE

    Blackmagic Design released the Ursa Mini Pro 2 years ago. It now uses BRAW. The Pocket 4k released in 2018 now uses BRAW. Based on Blackmagic Design's annual revenue, which is based mostly on camera sales, it would probably be safe to assume they have about 100,000+ cameras out there with people who can only use BRAW as their RAW format.

    This is 100,000+ people who may be using Adobe products, but will HAVE TO switch to DaVinci Resolve because Adobe doesn't support them.

    Assuming Adobe subscribers have been paying $50 per month for Adobe CC, Adobe will be taking a potential $5,000,000 dollar loss per month when the subscribers switch to Resolve. That's an annual $60,000,000.00 ($60M) a year that Adobe could potentially lose if they don't support BRAW.

    But, it's not just the immediate financial loss. It's the loss of future business and market share to DaVinci Resolve to future generations. I would think this should matter to any practical business no matter how big they are. You got where you are by being smart, Adobe. Think about it.

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    John commented  · 

    The Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K (BMPCC 4K) has been probably the most popular 'in-demand' consumer camera in the last year. BMD still cannot keep up with demand.

    With the announcement today of Blackmagic RAW being included in this camera, the demand just increased; not only for the camera, but for ALL OF US who want to use it, and pay for our monthly subscription to Adobe for Premiere.

    This is no longer just a small request by a few. EVERYONE is going to want BRAW on Premiere. Please let us know that you care; that you are working on it; even an estimated timeline of expected delivery would be awesome!

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    John commented  · 

    I suppose for now we could pre-edit and color in Resolve and then Export the individual clips as Premiere XML files to import into Premiere... but it would be so much more convenient to keep in all in one place.

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    John commented  · 

    Please support Blackmagic RAW. This is a revolutionary format by a very popular industry known camera manufacturer (Blackmagic Design) that every other video editing software manufacturer will support, including Final Cut Pro, Avid and of course, Davinci Resolve. Premiere Pro MUST support this in order to stay competitive.

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