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    377 comments  ·  After Effects » Performance  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hello everybody!

    (This post was co-authored by Tim Kurkoski (After Effects Product Owner), Andrew Cheyne (After Effects Engineering Manager), and Victoria Nece (After Effects Product Manager).)

    This thread has been sitting here for quite a while without a response. To start, we want to apologize for that. We haven’t been ignoring you or your feedback – this is just a particularly complex topic. That said, it’s time for us to check in with you, clarify a few things, and give you an idea of what we’re looking at for the future of After Effects, especially when it comes to performance.

    To start, we fully understand that you want After Effects to be as fast as it can be – utilizing your computer’s hardware resources to render as fast as possible. Over the last several years, we have been working on the performance of After Effects constantly. Sometimes those performance gains…

    Patrick Proier commented  · 

    @Sebastien Perier

    1) Thx for your advice! I have tested it now with Z GPU and got a max. of 69% (30 GPU effects on a clip)
    2) But it rendered only 2x faster with the GPU than on my 6-year-old CPU on only one core (CPU Load max. 36%)! If AE were really optimized without any bottleneck it should render 5-10x faster than my old single core oft the CPU.
    3) Would you personally invest in a AMD 3950X (16 cores) or an RTX 2080Ti for AE in the future?.
    4) Why is Adobe so slow in converting their Effects into a GPU version? We have got (i ignore the new VR Effects) only 30 convertet GPU Effects in the last 3 years. The Plugin Sapphire from Boris FX converted already 220 of their 270 Effects into a GPU supported version.

    Patrick Proier commented  · 

    @daniele Coraolo ... I would have invested in 2× 2080Ti if AE would really benefits from an GPU ...but it does not! Even my old GTX 980 never has more than 20% GPU load if I use only GPU Effects. Mostly it uses only 0-3% of The GPU ...AE has no multicore support, a very bad RAM management, an obsolet color management, no 3D engine and one of the worst GPU implementations ever! that's the truth :-) ... I think they have massive problems with the old core of After Effects. Adobe didn't listen to us (like today) and absolutely missed to rewrite the core of AE already 10 years ago.

    Patrick Proier commented  · 

    I can't hear it anymore!

    Every year the main feature of AE updates is "performance improvements under the hood!".
    If that's true AE should be a rocket of a software now! ...but its exactly the opposite! ...if you open a 2013 version of AE you can't really tell any improvement in render, UI and effect performance in production. To be honest the new UI feels even slower in some parts.

    I think, a lot of us have no idea what you (the AE Team) is doing the hole year at Adobe? ... fixing some little bugs of the text tool, adding a new checkbox, refining the old caching a bit (which base on a system that should be obsolete since years) or including a already existing free plugin, like Pro EXR (by the way the best feature of 2020 :D), which was developed by a single man for free!!!!). That should be a task for max. 5 weeks for a team of 3 persons!

    Since 2009 the community is telling you that we need a complete new multicore/multi gpu core in AE! a modern 3D particle system (maybe with a node UI), a physic systems for creative things, motion fields for creative effects, a simple and modern 3D engine do work with 3D geometry, 3D Projection mapping, point clouds, tracking data, a new and robust way to simple handle color spaces like ACES in 2020, a easy rigging system maybe with 3D bones for 2D Elements... If you have only 5 talented people in your team and would have listened to us only a bit, after effects could have been today a fast and modern tool everyone loves to play with. Please stop fixing only the little scratches of the nearly dead Frankenstein! Don't listen only to AE beginners and start fixing the massive core problems of the old creature!

    The community is really sad because we can't feel any vision of the AE team how composing, vfx, and motion graphic will look in 5-10 years. At the moment it feels more if some ex mediocre motion graphics guys are very proud of implementing their little production trick from the past in the software. It's time to hire new young and creative people with real big visions for the future! ...don't be afraid of radical changes! a core and interface out of the early 90s is nothing to be proud of!

    Patrick Proier commented  · 

    Don't try to translate the 30 year old core of AE 1:1 into the new GPU/ and Multi CPU world of 2019!.

    Go with your partners from C4D back to the drawing boards and design the old core totally new.

    After Effects leaks not only at GPU and Multicore performance it needs also a total new and simple 3D Engine. A kind of native (and better) Elements 3D with basic features to import and manipulate simple 3D data. (geometry, projection mapping, depth data, lights, particle, pointclouds, and camera/tracking data)

    Also, a solid and modern color management (native ACES support) and new workflows to deal with 3D passes like in OpenExr files is needed.

    the old core of AE is simple not made for Motion Graphic artist and VFX artists of the feature!

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    Patrick Proier commented  · 

    Nice Concept!
    Adobe slept the last 6 years, invests at the moment too much in funny mobile apps and forgets their pro users.

    After Effects is now a tool that feels like it has passed the last 10 years completely: It is still supports only single cores, isn't optimized for GPUs, has no up to date 3D engine, no modern particle system, no modern color space manager ect.

    So all VFX/Postpro artist(companies went already to Nuke and the Motion Designers who all will need 3D in the near future will follow in a few Versions.

    The same will happen with Adobe Premiere.
    DaVinci Resolve feels fresher, it uses the full performance of modern PC (CPU and GPU), it gets 20x more and better updates every year so it will be very soon the better editing tool and is by far the better color tool - and its free :D

    Adobe is like Intel ... they slept the last 6 years because they felt too save... and forgot to rewrite the old cores of all their tools. Now they will receive the bill very soon :-) ... like Intel did from AMD in the last months.

    Adobe needs more young innovative people who rethink their tools form ground up! Most tools feel like it would be still 2002.

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    24 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Performance  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    As Wes noted, we are looking at many areas for optimization and have made strides in the last few releases already.

    We recognize there are still many areas to improve performance and we are investing in appropriate areas.

    Threads that are catch-alls are often non-actionable. Please keep giving us specific feedback on what workflows are slow for you.

    Technical solutions may not always be as obvious as some people may be suggesting as the application architecture is often very different than people’s conception.

    Short answer. Yes, we want to and will make it faster.

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    104 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Editing  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    This is a great request that is certainly something we want to implement. Rest assured our engineers DO understand the importance of this feature and how to get the job done. We also know that the performance and stability of the app should be our #1 priority and that is where our focus is right now.

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    70 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Effects & Transitions  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    What you’re suggesting would lead to a full on revision of the feature – therefore I’d like to ask a couple of additional questions:
    what kind of footage do you usually try to stabilize with the Warp Stabilizer? And how much tweaking of the settings do you do on average?

    Thanks
    Patrick

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    337 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Formats  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hello everyone,

    my sincere apologies for not updating the status of this request any sooner.

    We’ve been working on widening the range of supported systems for the last couple of weeks – and to ensure we get performance right. I’ll have roll-out information for you within the next 4 weeks.

    Cheers,
    Patrick

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    Thanks for all the feedback. It’s pretty clear that we’ve got to look into the workflow using this format more closely, there are enough reports about gaps at this point to reopen this item. I’ll post more info about next steps shortly. In the meantime, a couple of questions are easy to answer:

    - The plugin is designed for Premiere Pro. It currently doesn’t provide support for After Effects.
    - It does work with AME, so if you want to use it for batch processing, that’s very doable
    - If you’ve started a project with Autokroma, there’s no easy way to transfer it to be running with the new plugin.

    Patrick

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