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    Hi all,

    Thank you all for your feedback on these playback performance issues. As you may have seen, the latest update to After Effects 2022 ( 22.3 ) brings native support for Apple silicon to the release version. While we are not considering this playback performance issue fixed yet, but we do need some clarity around the exact conditions that can cause the playback performance to degrade, given that it appears to have originally been reported against After Effects running under Rosetta. With that in mind, please do the following:

    If you have been running into slow previews while using After Effects 22.2.1 or earlier on Apple silicon under Rosetta, please update to 22.3 and see if the playback issues persist when you run After Effects natively. Let us know with a comment whether you continue to see any playback issues when running After Effects natively or under Rosetta.

    If…

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    David Bengali commented  · 

    Hi John,

    David B here, just letting you know I have installed AE release version 22.3 on M1 Max 16" macbook pro with Monterey 12.3.1

    When I run After Effects 22.3 under rosetta, I am seeing the same issues with mismatched color space causing slow previews. We do need to use after effects under Rosetta because many important plugins are not yet supported on M1, and we have projects that we would not be able to edit without opening in Rosetta.

    Steps to reproduce:

    Mark AE 22.3 in the info window to open using rosetta

    Create new project

    Turn on project color management and set working space of project to srgb IEC61966-2.1

    Import an h.264 (avc1) .mp4 file - it is automatically interpreted as Rec.709 Gamma 2.4 as shown in the info area at the top of the project window

    Drag footage onto new comp button to create new comp matching the footage

    Press spacebar or preview button. Preview speed is very slow

    Steps to resolve:

    Turn off color management for the project. Purge cache to ensure cached frames are not being used. The preview speed still returns to normal

    OR

    set the project working space to Rec.709 Gamma 2.4 (matches footage) Purge cache to ensure cached frames are not being used. The preview speed still returns to normal.

    OR

    turn off color management for the footage item (preserve RGB under interpret footage). Preview speed returns to normal.

    I am happy to send a sample project and footage file where this behavior is still seen under Rosetta with AE 22.3 if that helps.

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    David Bengali commented  · 

    Hi John,

    Thanks for your questions. I've responded in more detail in the community forum thread on the same topic at https://community.adobe.com/t5/after-effects-beta-discussions/after-effects-beta-now-on-apple-silicon/m-p/12835653/page/5#M1941

    but the quick answer here is that the issue seems to be caused by a mismatch between the color space of a footage item and the current project working space in project color settings.

    I'm happy to provide further information via email, or to continue the conversation on the forum page in case it is helpful to keep the community looped in

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    David Bengali commented  · 

    Further data to report for Adobe engineers: Completely erasing the computer to factory settings and re installing only the OS, Creative Cloud, and After Effects does not solve the issue. Brand new M1 Pro Max macbook pro with 64GB RAM.  Came with Monterey preinstalled so cannot be downgraded to Big Sur.  Latest version of after effects installed (22.2.1).  No third party plugins installed.  Description of issue:  In a project (8 bpc) with only one piece of footage (29.97, 1920x1080, H.264 and ProRes show same results): if I create a comp that contains only that piece of footage with no effects and press the spacebar, preview operates at 3 to 4 fps until all frames in the work area are cached, and only then can play back at real time.  If I open the same project on a 2017 macbook pro running mojave and after effects 21, the comp immediately previews at real time, even if no frames have previously been cached.  If I open the same project and comp in the latest After Effects (22.2.1) on a 2020 intel iMac 27" running Big Sur, the comp also previews in real time even if no frames are cached.  But on the M1 Max macbook pro under Monterey and Rosetta, the comp cannot preview in real time without first caching all frames.  Turning off multi frame rendering does not help. Turning off Cache Frames While Idle does not help. I installed the Beta version of After Effects, and it is able to preview this same comp in real time if I run in Apple Silicon mode, but if I run the Beta in Rosetta, I get the same result as the release version of after effects: 3 to 4 fps previews until all frames are cached.  I cannot run in apple silicon mode because I do need to install some third party plugins that are not supported on apple silicon yet (e.g., industry standards like Red Giant Trapcode), but in order to verify that the slow previews are not caused by any third party plugins or software, I fully erased the mac, reinstalled the OS (Monterey 12.3), installed only Creative Cloud and After Effects with no other plugins or software installed, and I still see the same poor performance under Rosetta.  I have seen a number of other users report the same issue when I search online across various adobe forums, while yet other users report excellent performance under rosetta.  Perhaps computers that shipped with Big Sur and were later upgraded to Monterey work fine while computers that shipped with Monterey do not.  Or perhaps some hardware batches are not compatible with After Effects under Rosetta while others are.  In any case, many users are reporting on the adobe community forums that After Effects is unusably slow on the latest M1 Pro and M1 Pro Max computers. I very much hope that Adobe can solve this very soon, since many users are spending a significant amount on Adobe software only to find that it cannot be used on current M1 computers. Searches reveal that this issue seems to have been reported for months across multiple operating system versions and after effects versions, but no fix has yet been provided by Adobe.

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    David Bengali commented  · 

    I am seeing the problematic behavior even with just a single layer of footage with no effects, 8 bpc, whether or not I am running in GPU accelerated mode. I tried opening the project in AE21 but it was no better. I deleted the AE22 preferences folder manually and it seemed like the preview performance in AE22 had possibly gotten a little better, but by a few minutes later the performance was just as bad as before. 3 fps previews in the timeline until all frames in the work area are cached. OS version is 12.2.1. The same project and composition in AE21 or AE22 preview in real time on an intel iMac under Big Sur.

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    I am having the same issue with the same spec'ed M1 Pro Max computer with AE 22.2.1. Unusably slow RAM previews even at quarter resolution in a short HD comp. The Beta seems better, but many critical plugins are not yet supported under the silicon-native beta, so this is not a solution for me. Is there anything we can do to make AE 22 usable on the M1 Pro Max under Rosetta?

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    David Bengali commented  · 

    Agree! For most large or professional projects, rendering image sequences is a critical part of the workflow, and when a render fails or a partial revision is needed, we need to be able to render portions of the timeline without using third-party products to renumber all of the frames. After Effects already works this way. We need AME and Premiere Pro to do it as well.

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