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    33 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Essential Graphics  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    I did not write that comment, but I'm pretty sure what Francis means by, "We are looking into it" is that we recognize that a lot of users could benefit from a spell check feature and so we're trying to evaluate our priorities and perhaps even lay some ground work to make it happen in the not too distant future.

    So it's good that you added your feedback here and hopefully we can make that feature a reality (in PrPro at least) before too long. I cannot speak to why other apps do not have spell checkers either.

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    Thanks for taking the time to share your request. Let's see how it does in votes here.

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    I saw at least two requests in here for Text Gradients and a replacement for the Legacy Titler's "Sheen" feature. I'm happy to announce the implementation of Text Gradients as of the latest public release of PrPro 15.2. Please try it out when you can and let us know what you think.

    For information about how to apply Text Gradients as well as a couple of short how-to videos, go to this link:
    https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/text-gradient.ug.html

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    @Trish Meyer Drop Shadow is already supported for Shapes using the latest public version of Pr. The attached image shows you how to enable Shadow for a Shape. Is there some other functionality you need besides that?

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    Thank you all for taking the time to contribute here. The feature request I submitted some time ago is still there and we have implemented some improvements but not all of them yet. We understand that the Legacy Titler cannot go away if there are still bug gaps in a lot of users' workflows. For now, let me clarify some things to make sure you understand you available options right now.

    (1) Gradients - gradients for Shape layers are already possible with Pr graphics. This includes multiple stops, angle control and opacity gradients. Simply select a shape, click on Fill in the EGP, and then use the Gradient fill pulldown in the upper left of the Color Picker. You will then see UI that will let you set Color and Transparency stops as well as a start, end and mid point for your gradient.

    (2) Layers with texture fill - textured fill is possible by means of our EGP masking feature. Put an image (still or video) under your Text (or other) Layers as a Clip Layer in the EGP. Select the top Layer and then check on Mask with Text (or Mask with Shape) and you will now have a layer that has a textured fill. (see attached screenshot) Put the two layers inside a Group in the EGP and the masking will not affect layers outside that Group.

    Note; You can make your own Gradient for Text by using the same basic steps I just described for Texture fill. Just use a Shape with a Gradient fill as your underlying Layer instead of a clip Layer.

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    These are all good requests, thanks for sending them to us. Most of these we've heard from our Japanese community and other users before, but to be sure we have them covered can you clarify some things?

    (1) Gradients - gradients for Shape layers are already possible with Pr graphics. Simply select a shape, click on Fill in the EGP, and then use the Gradient fill pulldown in the upper left of the Color Picker. You will then see UI that will let you set Color and Transparency stops as well as a start, end and mid point for your gradient.
    (2) Scene features - what do you mean by this? Please explain, with a screenshot if needed.
    (3) Multi shadows - can you please send me a real world sample of some titles with Multi Shadows? We recently added multiple strokes so I'm not sure whate else is needed for multi shadows.

    Thanks in advance. I'll make sure stories are in place for the remaining things you need to be free of the Legacy Tilter for good.

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    7 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Essential Graphics  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Hi Clint, after submitting a problem report and looking to this some more, I have learned that it is actually working as designed. You see, on Mac, Option + semicolon is mapped by default to Find Previous Gap in Sequence. If you change or remove that mapping in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialog, then pressing opt + ; will make an ellipsis.

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    Thank you for the response, Clint. After your initial post, I submitted an internal problem report for this. It's a problem with the EGP itself and is not specific to Ae text. For example, if you make a shape using the shape tool in Pr, and then right click and Rename it from within the EGP, the same result will happen if you press alt/opt + semicolon. In either case, you can still enter an ellipse by just pressing the period key three times.

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    Thank you for taking the time to report this. I think what you mean is that when using a shortcut like option + semicolon (on mac) the ellipses is not added if you are typing inside an EGP edit field. Is that right? Also, are you using mac or win?

    I tried this on the latest public version of Pr 15.0 using a simple Ae mogrt with text and it happens just as you said. The ellipses is not added to the Ae text if you are typing into the EGP field but it is added if you are typing into the Program Mon edit box. I can log a problem report for this. I can't promise to fix it in the near future but I can at least put it in a state where it can be evaluated and prioritized.

    Thank you agin for letting us know about it. For now, the workaround, of course, is to just type in three periods.

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    Thank you for taking the time for reporting this, Werner. There have been problems in the past where AME did not always export graphic layers as expected, but those known issues were fixed several versions ago. I just tried exporting some text layers with backgrounds using the latest (15.0) versions of PrPro and AME and the results were all good.

    So, assuming you're still having trouble with this, I'd like to ask you two questions:
    (1) What versions of Pr and AME are you using and on which OS?
    (2) When you say "background" do you mean the background appearance property for text layers or do you mean a rectangular shape layer that is pinned to a text layer above it?

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    Thank you Tim for sending me the mogrt and a clear picture of the correct and incorrect results you are seeing. After spending some time with your mogrt on several different systems, we found that the problem happens when you turn on the control to "Resize for 1080" in Pr's EGP which keeps the track mattes from animating in and out correctly. If you don't actually need to resize it for 1080, you can just leave that unchecked and the whole graphic will animate in and out as expected.

    Also thank you for helping me get to the root of the problem in Ae. To be clear, to fix it you just needed to make sure that the masks were parented correctly to the the resize control and that they resize along with everything else when that control is checked on. After that, you will of course need to re-export the MOGRT from Ae and re-apply it in Pr and all the controls should work as expected at that point.

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    Thank you for taking the time to report this to us. I'd like to get the mogrt form you if possible so I can try it myself. I will be emailing you shortly to set up a way to do that. Also, I watched the mp4 you attached but I didn't see any obvious problem with it. Was that what the correct result is supposed to look like or did I miss some flaw in the video?

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    Sorry for your troubles. What version of PrPro are you using?

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    4 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Essential Graphics  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    srt export was broken in Beta builds from about a week ago. It should be fixed in the latest Beta build (Pr 15.0 x Beta 024) which you can update to using your CC desktop app.

    The screenshot you attached helped us to understand what you are seeing. Could you maybe attach another one to show us how you want it to look? The caption bumpers you are hitting are at just 5% of the Program Monitor frame area, which leaves very little room for readable text outside of that area.

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    Thank you for your feedback, Arun. It's good to see folks using our new captions workflow already and we're interested in helping people have the best experience possible. Can you tell us more about the workflow which requires you to move a caption outside of safely visible areas in the Program Monitor?

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    149 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Essential Graphics  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Thank you for the thorough feedback as always, Pierre. For now I will just respond to those 2 additional points you made.

    Re: (1) Drag and drop multiple mogrts to sequence. I have requested this myself because it's often part of my testing process to analyze a lot of mogrts at once. But this is not a real user scenario and when asked to come up with a real use case, I have not been able to. Can you help us understand what the actual editing/creative workflow is where someone would want to add 48 mogrts at once, all in a row in the same track?

    Re: (2) This could get dangerous. A lot of people purchase and use stock mogrts and expect to be able to keep them in their EGP to use whenever they want. If they don't remember to move them to a Library or some additional folder location they could lose their purchases for good. In any case, I think we want to err on the side of NOT automatically deleting any user media from disk or even from within a bin in the project. But again, if you have a really compelling use case for this, we'd like to hear about it.

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    Thank you all for the helpful comments and votes here. This really helps us understand user needs and priorities.

    This particular topic has included a lot of different ideas and requests over the years and has been hard to follow over time. Also, the Under Review status assigned to it may be a little misleading. As a result, we are removing that label at this time. This doesn't mean that we don't care about all the user requests in this area. On the contrary, we want to keep hearing your voices so that we can deliver the best possible features in the future.

    For now, I'd like to let anyone who is reading know about a few existing methods to help you organize your mogrts:
    (1) Export or copy your mogrts to be inside of CC Libraries. These can be filtered and viewed like folders in the EGP and they are also searchable from within the EGP Browse panel.
    (2) Use "Manage Additional Folders" which can accessed from the EGP spanner menu. You can add, remove and sort local and network folders from within this dialog and then view and filter them from within the EGP Browse tab.
    (3) There is a free plugin call Premiere Composer which will give you some really nice UI to help you organize and use mogrts.

    Regarding that 3rd option, I'll let my colleague Dacia provide some additional info about it including a link to a page where you can preview and download it if you want.

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    @scott I can understand why the workflow seems counter-intuitve when you're used to everything being like media in the Project Panel. Perhaps it would help to think of Graphic Layers as Effects (which is what they are) and the Graphic track item as a container for Layers. Like effects, Graphic Layers are only really relevant when they are used in sequence along with the media they are meant to complement.

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    @scott crozier We recently removed the drag and drop method of converting timeline Graphics into Master graphics in the project panel because it creates a scenrario where all new instances of the master item will always be exact duplicates of each other. That is not something that most users will ever want, so we made it harder to do inadvertently. It's still possible, you just have to use a menu item to do it. Select a Graphic in TL, then choose Graphics > Upgrade to Master Graphic.

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    @Vedin Trhulj

    If you can find each of the mogrts you need per sport once in the EGP, and if you click the Info button on a mogrt's thumbnail, then you can add keywords like "Tennis" or "Basketball". You can then search on "Tennis" within the My Templates tab to show that set of mogrts. You can get as detailed as you want with your keywords, like for example maybe you add "Handball, 2018, Lower Thirds" so that you can search out all the Lower Thirds graphics for your 2018 Handball segments at once.

    Also, if the thumbnails you want are already Local, checking on Local Templates Folder should make it easier to spot what you want. It should be even easier if you save to Libraries and filter to show only the Library(s) you want.

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    I'll let one of our Product Managers explain the reasons behind replacing the EGP Browser folder navigation with a tagging and search system for mogrts.

    For now, to help people understand more about the current workflow, here are some steps that might help.

    Create your own Graphics packages to share:
    1. Make a Graphic in Pr or author one in Ae's EGP.
    2. Export as Mogrt.
    3. (Optional) In the export dialog, assign some kind of shared keyword(s) so that you can easily search and find related graphics in the EGP later. You can also add, remove keywords after the fact in the EGP Mogrt's Info view, as long as it's in your possession (not a mogrt in the stock tab).
    4. Choose a Library as the export destination.
    5. Repeat step 1-4 for additional graphics in that package. Make multiple Libraries if you want and arrange things in various Libraries as needed. Mogrt sets can be filtered by Library name in this way.
    6. Invite other users to your Library(s).
    7. Go to Pr's EGP > Browser > My Templates > Libraries > LibraryName. (one or more Library can be checked on at a time)
    8. Drag and drop a mogrt form there to a sequence in the Timeline.

    NOTE: If Export as MOGRT destination is CC Library... it will always create a new item, even if you give it the same name. If it gets too confusing to have a lot of variations in the same Library with iterated names, you may want to add a step where you delete the old one before Exporting a revised mogrt from Ae or Pr.

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    "Other : Open .morgtfiles on Aftereffects ????"

    This is already possible in Ae 15.1 ... Launch Ae > Open Project > point to a mogrt > Extract
    It has to be a mogrt compatible with that version though.

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    @david Please see Annika's comment from May 13, 2019. There is a way to show all fonts being used in any Pr Graphics across any open sequences and projects. Look under the Graphics menu and choose "Replace Fonts in Projects..." Just note that fonts used in Legacy Ttiles or inside and Ae Graphics will not be included in the list.

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    6 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » User experience/interface  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Thanks for your continued support and feedback, Pierre. We take these suggestions really seriously and want to do what we can to understand and respond to them. Here are a couple of points I can speak to:

    (1) Ctrl/Cmd + Click on Graphic layers in the Program Mon: this switches the selection from one layer to another, which is the same as the Ae behavior. Ps does not have a monitor, of course, but clicking on one layer in the canvas and then Ctrl + Clicking on another layer does not select both layers. It keeps only the 1st layer selected.

    (2) Captions: Ctrl/Cmd + A will highlight all characters in a caption block if it's in edit mode. This is brand new behavior and should be in the latests beta builds. Ctrl/Cmd + A does not work for selecting all caption blocks in a track because it selects all track items in the Timeline, which is what you stated it should do... "Ctrl-A = selects all items".

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    Thank you for taking the time to send this to us.

    Animated GIFs can be added to Pr Graphics as clip layers, but a mogrt made from that Graphic is not supported in Rush. So this is a good request, but it's really a request for the Rush product. If you want, I can move this idea to the Rush product, or you can write your own idea for this request over on the Rush page.

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    Thank you very much for sharing your ideas with us. This kind of feedback helps us know what's important to our users.

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    Thank you for taking the time to send us your feedback. I know how frustrating it can be when tools to do not work as expected. Could you tell us a few specific ways in which the Type tool is slow, buggy and difficult for you to use?

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    3 comments  ·  Premiere Pro » Essential Graphics  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Thank you very much for taking the time to submit this. Rounded rectangle shapes and rounded text backgrounds are something we have wanted to include for a while but everything takes time and must be prioritized. Suggestions like this, as well as votes and comments supporting, help us keep the right priorities.

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    Thank you for taking the time to list all of these things out. It's all good feedback and it helps us to know what is problematic for users. I can't promise any imminent behavior changes, but I can explain some of the existing behaviors to perhaps help you use our existing features more easily.

    Some of what you are seeing is due to a fundamental shapes behavior, which is that when you click and drag on a shape's blue-box handle, you are actually editing the path, not scaling the shape. If you want to truly scale a shape, use the Scale control in the EGP and it will do some (but not all) of what you want. (see the attached screenshot.)

    As for Groups, we do scale Layers within a Group as one, it's just that the bounding box is the frame size, not the combined area of the layers in the group. I have made requests to change that.

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    Thank you for taking the time to comment, Nigel. We are interested in knowing what is or is not working well for users with Pr Graphics. I noticed you said you've had messy issues with the re-sizing of Shapes and Text. Can you tell me, or perhaps show me in a screenshot, what exactly the problem is?

    In the meantime, there is not a single channel that we use to collect user feedback about a particular set of features. User Voice is a good source of info for us, but we also gain insight from user studies, customer visits and things like that. Adding comments and votes to a thread like this certainly helps us see how users feel.

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    @John P I probably didn't make it clear that I'm just scratching my brain for workarounds that might be viable for you, not excusing the feature gap with a cumbersome workaround.

    I also tried Master Text Styles to see if that could be a way for you to set custom Small Caps Size onto several Layers/Graphics at once. But that did not work out since Master Text Styles do not support sub-strings.

    I think we need to add Small Caps Size that are only possible in the Legacy Titler.

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    Graphics also have Small Caps and the size of those Caps relative to each other can be adjusted by using the Font Size property for selected characters.

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    Thanks for catching this, John. You are correct, we are trying to keep all the 'don't get rid of the old titler' topics in one place so all the votes and comments can count as one. I will merge it.

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    Google translate has a 3900 character limit, but I ran what I could through it. I think this is a request for the Legacy Titler to not go away, or for Graphics to have additional telop features added in order to bridge that gap. At least that's what the first several paragraphs seem to indicate. I'm migrating this to the existing request for not eliminating the Legacy titler so that all the votes and comments will count in one place.

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    Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I'm merging this to a related thread about not getting rid of the Legacy Titler (you know it's still there in the current Pr version (as of Pr 12.1.2 at least) right?). By merging things like this, we can keep all the votes and comments in one place where they can count the most.

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    @Joel Ferland You can make clip layers to insert your logos in the same way using Graphics > Rolls. Then you can position them wherever you want within the Roll and they will roll right along with the rest of of your text/shape layers in the same roll. You can make your program monitor bigger by just clicking and dragging the panel edges out. Or make it full screen by pressing "~" (without the quotes) and toggle back to your regular workspace using the same key whenever you want.

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    @morgan To make a roll, make a new Graphic + Text/Shape/Clip Layer(s) in Pr. Make sure the Graphic is selected, but its individual layers are not. Click on Roll in the EGP.

    The animation of a Roll happens automatically. Duration and speed depend on how long your content is, how many frames the Graphic clip is, and what roll options you've set in the EGP. You can still edit your roll as much as you want after making it a roll so don't worry about finishing it all first.

    I've made multi and mixed column rolls with many layers entirely inside Pr using text, shape and clip layers with pinning. But for really complex rolls, I've found it easier to design it all as one big psd/png file in Photoshop, then just add that image as a Graphic clip layer and enable that as a roll. That method makes it a little harder to edit back and forth between Ps and Pr after you make the Graphic, but if you don't care about that and you just want all the imaging and graphical power of apps like Ps or Ai for the actual authoring and design part before you go to Pr, it's a good way to go.

    Finally, I have to disagree that Pr Graphics are largely focused on Ae templates. (read my previous response to Jason to understand the difference between aegraphics and prgraphics) If you just want to make Titles in Pr, that's what the Type/Shape/EGP and other tools are for. Making Titles that way does not need to involve Ae at all. If it seems like all the focus is on Ae, that's because a lot of users seem to prefer designing all their Motion Graphics in Ae even for relatively simple ones that they could easily do in Pr using Graphics tools and Effect Controls.

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    @jason ross For multiple lines of text in Pr, use the title tool, click in the Program Mon (PM), start typing, hit enter for a carriage return tot he next line. Or click and drag in the PM not make a 'Text in Box' so that you can just enter your text and it will wrap within the box boundaries.

    Once you have the text you want, use the EGP edit tab to change your font, size, color and many other things for selected text or shape layers. If you are not seeing all that in a pretty intuitive way, it makes me thing that you are either not using the Essential Graphics workspace, or else you are using aegraphics instead of prgraphics. Ae graphics are what you get when you apply an ae mogrt in Pr. Pr graphics are what you get when you wither apply a pro mogrt or make a new Graphic + Layer using the type or shape tools. Ae graphics are much more limited in what can be edited in the EGP and the Ae user decides what to make editable in Pr at all. prgraphcis are always fully editable in Pr.

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    Thank you for your response @Jason Ross
    We understand your frustration.

    Any further feedback from others? Especially for things you might need regularly which you can only do in the Old Titler.

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    Fair enough. Thanks for the feedback. Can you tell us a little more about what you can't afford to lose if we were to remove the Legacy Titler at some point? Perhaps some of those who voted this up could chime in as well.

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    Michael, Premiere Text allows kerning in the Essential Graphics Panel as shown in this image. If you are using Motion Graphics Templates from After Effects, kerning is not currently supported for those, but then you would not be able to open the Text directly in Photoshop either. So I'm a little confused about what you are trying to do and why it is not working for you.

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    Hi Blake, I have been unable to reproduce this on Win 10 (or on mac) using the H265 preset in AME and a 4K sequence. I set up my own media + Graphic with an animated opacity mask, so maybe there's something about your workflow I am missing.

    If possible, I'd like to get a simple Project + Media from you that may repro the failure for me. If you are able to do that, please reply back here and I will contact you directly for steps and a way to get some files from you. Thank in advance.

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    Thank you for reporting this to us. And thank you for including screenshots, especially the one that shows what your ECP and Program Mon look like. That really helps me know what you're trying. I'm going to investigate this using my own Media and Graphics to see if I can get a local repro of it.

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    Thank you, Holly. I got your mogrt that time and I see what the problem is. You have added the Responsive Design -Time protected regions to the comp called "First Comp" which is nested one level down from the comp you are Exporting as Mogrt. You just need to move the protected regions up one level, so that they are applied to the comp called "Main". Export that as Mogrt and it should work.

    Note that when you remove the Protected Region Markers from "First Comp", the no-handle blue regions will still be there in the "Main" comp. To get rid of those before making new regions, go to the Layer menu > Markers > Update Markers From Source.

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    Thank you for your response. I don't see any attached file or a link to a zip file though.

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    Holly, if you're using an Ae Mogrt with Responsive Design - Time protected areas, you should use the arrow tool to trim it out or in in the timeline, rather than the rate stretch tool. However from your previous comment (on 6/29/20) I see that you're unable to trim the mogrt in Pr that way. If that is the case, can you please share the mogrt with me so I can open it and see where the problem might be?

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    The Cmd+B shortcut is mapped to the Legacy Titler's Bold command by default, but it can be mapped to Faux Bold for text layers using the Keyboard Shortcuts dialog.

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