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    This is not a bug, it’s as designed. We specifically limit the visibility to one track at a time to avoid accidentally burning in multiple tracks. Also, when exporting to a format that only supports one captions stream like SRT or STL, we need to know which is the active track in order to export the correct track.

    But I understand why you might need two tracks visible at the same time.

    Multiple speakers:
    If we could automatically identify speakers and designate a style associated with them, would that help? For example speaker 1 is blue and on the left, speaker 2 is yellow and on the right?

    Multiple languages:
    Do you ever need to burn in both at the same time or is it just a matter of being able to see both to aid in translation and alignment?

    Thanks for the feedback, we really are listening :)

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    So I see that Premiere has been upadated to v15.4. Any news as whether this is sorted in it? The new features list suggests some developments in the captions area, but nothing explicit about this problem.

    is ANYONE from Adobe listening??? Is there no information available??

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    Pierre I absolutely agree, and will have to consider 'subtitletools' if it’s not changed (thanks Matty).

    Also subtitletools will, I think, resolve the safety area problem too - another crazy thing where Adobe apparently don't understand that broadcast isn't the only game in town...

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    Is anyone at Adobe across this?

    Can someone give us the status of our request? I'm holding off finding another solution on the off chance this is sorted - basically when Adobe stops keeping 14.x available I will have to move.

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    I can't add much more as John H and Pierre B have explained most of what I need. I just wanted to add my voice to the request for multiple layers.

    And no, anything ‘auto’ about placing captions would likely not be useful. For my use the timing, placement and style of the captions are pretty critical. I would prefer a fairly simple – I hope – ‘switch multiple tracks on’ button, rather than rely on an auto system.

    There is also the problem with all my previous projects, they aren’t so much broken as useless.

    I had to go back to one project after upgrading and it was impossible to output it without remaking the subtitle tracks. Luckily I still had 14.x on a machine which saved the day. So an option to revert to old behaviors would be good – not least because all the different layers appear in the new project, suggesting that the system sees them.

    Without wanting to sound snide I'm curious about the thought process that led to removing multiple layer output (note: NOT multiple layers, just the output) *without* giving the option to reverse that - and I totally understand how this would be a non-default option, but I'm at a loss to understand the lack of a switch.

    So, I support the 'force show' keystroke as suggested by Pierre - it could even be labelled 'The Pierre option'. (Just a thought.)

    Thanks for the opportunity for the conversation.

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    Just a note to point out that 15.1 doesn't fix this.

    Can we have a comment as to whether Adobe is actually working on a fix?

    I've never worked professionally on another NLE can anyone suggest a system that handles captions like Premiere used to?

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    I have a series of sketches that rely on having two voices on screen (a cut away to another person interrupting while the first person is speaking etc) - when I import these into 15.0.0 I lose the ability to output them as two lines.

    And of course I can't produce any new ones. Luckily I have ver 14.9 so I can still work - but it seems very surprising that you would now allow only one track given that it was so easy to do multiple tracks before.

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    Chris Long commented  · 

    Just sent lock 1 of project after battling with subtitles. Nightmare.

    This is an online project and the idea that Premiere is telling me to be careful of CRT overscan is laugable. And frustrating.

    There used to be a work round in 14.x that meant you could get the subs further down the screen, it was still rubbish but this new system seems to have killed even that off.

    Please, allow us to select 'broadcast or online' for our captioning system.

    Thanks.

    Chris

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