A simple rotate function would be great! Often we convert phone footage, ant it needs to be rotated 90 degrees.
Pretty simple. Adding some rotate function to the crop function would be really helpful....and easy I imagine
Jean-Baptiste Lafon commented
Hello, Thanks for looking into this !
1. 90 degrees for me is a must-have, i feel that if one needs to do some granual editing then they probably would be better off with opening After Effects anyway. That said, maybe 45 degrees increments would be a good middle ground.
2. I feel this only applies for 90 degree rotations. In which case I would want the resolution to "rotate as well" without scaling. If there were to be smaller increments, scaling or cropping should be part of the feature.
90 degree rotation - YES and without scaling please
Granular steps - Nice to have but seem like a hassle
Brett Howe commented
Hi Adobe. Thanks for looking into this. Wow. I posted this idea almost 4 years ago. It's probably more relevant now than it was then. Here's my take on what's required, from a complete solution perspective and why.
Firstly, a simple rotate. I suggest giving us steps...like +90, -90 and 180 etc. I don't think it's going to cause your development staff any headaches to achieve this. This functionality is really just to fix those occasions when somebody has started shooting on a mobile device vertically, but then turned to landscape (for example)..and the clip header is set to the initial aspect.
With all functionality in regards to rotate, the existing crop and fill options should be present, with one addition.
And here comes my second requirement for this feature. Pillar-boxing. When using, for example a vertical clip source, cropped or not, that is smaller than the horizontal width of the target resolution, we should have a third option beyond "Scale To Fit" and "Stretch To Fit". The third option should be "Blur To Fill".
Essentially "Blur To Fill" should duplicate the source (or it's cropped selection) and Scale To Fit it behind the output clip. Adding a simple and fast blur, whilst also reducing the brightness, to fill the empty space....so the "Pillabox" is not black.
Many social video services already have this...youtube for example. It's bread and butter stuff that is used all the time, and the fact we have to create an After effects file to process this is really wasted productivity, in terms of both designer / editor time, and machine time.
I know this is an easy thing to do in AE or PPRO...but in this day and age, it really should be a click and go feature.
Thanks all. I live in anticipation that this will make it to a future release...hopefully faster than another four years. :)
To answer your questions:
1. I would like 90 degrees step : -90, 90, 180
2. No scale, We keep original resolution: 1920 x 1080 rotated to 1080 x 1920.
Jack Steffens commented
Thanks Fergus for replying to this topic. I'm glad to hear your team is considering this feature.
Personally I am fine with a rotational steps of 90 degrees. Any finer/more granular steps would be something I would do in Premiere. Rotating the viewport is also important in this use-case. As the others have mentioned, we don't want black bars in our flipped videos. We want to make full use of the resolution the video was shot in.
Rotating individual videos in bulk is currently a very time consuming task in Premiere, and I would love to have this feature in Media Encoder so it's quick and easy to pull off.
Luca CODELUPPI commented
Following the previous example, it can have a vertical 1080 with a width scaled to respect the ratio between the two measures, also
Ben Knight commented
1) + or - 90 degres increments
2) No crop, no bars, 1920w x 1080h (horizontal) become 1080w x 1920h (vertical)
Alexandre Chevreuil commented
+ or - 90 degres increments
No crop, no bars, 1080x1920 become 1920x1080
stefan toft commented
I would say fixed in 45 degress increments. with shift or something making it more granular.
And def not black bars anywhere it can be cropped manually afterwords
Marijan S commented
1. Granular steps would impact a higher range of users. With granular you solve A and B issues within question #1.
2. NO black bars - avoid those as mandatory. Let it always have a normal-original resolution.
Rob Claisse commented
1) Fix 90, 180 or 270 would be great.
2) Change the orientation so if was 1920x1080, and rotated 90 degree it would be 1080x1920.
Bryan Bilocura commented
Speaking for myself:
A straightforward option in 90 degree steps clockwise/counterclockwise would be helpful.
For a portrait video shot at 1080 wide x1920 high:
*90deg and 270deg transformations make the video become 1920x1080
*180deg keep the original 1080x1920 dimensions
I guess a best-of-both-worlds option would be a "best fit" given the target encode dimensions and pillar/letterboxing as necessary?
Anne Steinkogler commented
1) Fixed 90 degrees would already help a lot and is perfectly sufficient imho
2) Most of the time the video has already the preferred wxh, it's just the wrong orientation. I want the video to be full screen so just keep the file size and rotate by 90 degrees. Same as if I would rotate a page in a PDF file.
Julian Lemmerich commented
I think 90° steps would be sufficient. Anything inbetween I would leave to Premiere.
The format should rotate too, like when rotating an image. So no black bars
Pēteris Kārkliņš commented
Agree - the phone era is upon us! It's amazing, how many ways for people to mess up filming of a video in the right direction there are! :D
Ben Knight commented
I also need Media Encoder to have the option to rotate 90 degrees the videos. Please implement this simple feature.
Adobe 2022 is here and still no rotate function !
This is the third most voted feature request on Media Encoder!
CJ Barnwell commented
Hey Christopher, I would say just 90 degree and really you should have the option to swap the resolution AND crop/scale. In truth, I wish there was just a check box where we could swap resolutions. I just proxy'd some videos in AME and a couple of the original were 1080 x 1920 (instead of 1920 x 1080) and I had to make a whole new ingest preset, when I wish everywhere through the adobe suite I could just click a check box to swap the resolution and keep everything else the same.
Brett Howe commented
How would this work?
There are a few things. Anonymous commented in 2018 about the issue where if the record button is hit on a mobile, it locks the orientation to the phone at the time. Often the phone is then turned around to shoot wide, or vertical, and it displays sideways. Probably locked into the file header.
So yes, a simple 90 flip would be great. Keep the tools we have in terms of cropping, scaling etc, and it would be really handy and easy.
The other feature would be what YouTube, Facebook and a bunch of other social video tools do...ADD BACKGROUND.
My wish: If you use SCALE TO FIT...the remaining space is filled with a SCALED TO FILL version of the same thing, just a little darker, and blurred.
Yes, it's something we can do easily in Premiere or After Effects....but it still takes time, and in a daily NEWS cycle, we are processing many many phone videos of all sizes and aspects....and a simple one size fits all MEDIA ENCODER solution would be ideal.
Christopher Ward commented
Hi everyone, first of all thanks for filing this great idea! I have a question regarding a possible implementation. Would you prefer a fixed 90 degrees rotation or more granular steps?
Also, would you expect the width and height of the exported file to be changed as well or would you prefer the frame size to be fixed and the image to be scaled / pillarboxed?
Example: File has 1920 x 1080 (wxh) and the rotated has 1080 x 1920 or still 1920 x 1080 and the image is cut off or has black bars?
I confirm, filming in smartphone format with a camera requires a 90 degree rotation to be viewed on a computer, it's amazing that Media Encoder does not offer this simple feature.