2022.3 Time Tuner Devastating Change!
My job is to slow down .wav files 4.27% to sync with video clips for International Distribution. I have been using the Time Tuner tab in the Export Tool to accomplish this perfectly. Pitch is maintained, Length is as close to exact as I need down to the Sample and Millisecond.
In version 2022.3, I load my previous preset which displays 4.269999999999996. I select the box and want to change it to 4.27 and all I get is the 4 making my audio 5 seconds short and obviously not in sync.
Until this is fixed, I cannot use 2022.3 as it will literally make me useless to my employer. I haven't checked the Rate Stretch Tool or Audition yet. But I've never had the same confidence with them.
I'll check, but I'm not sure they will suit my needs. PLEASE MAKE IT THE WAY IT WAS!? I'm dead in the water without this functionality.
I get it. So as not to go off topic here, I've used Vegas since Sony Vegas 6 on and off as a hobby.
Professionally, I've used Avid Symphony, Avid DS, FCP7 and now Premiere.
To get back on topic, I took another look at Vegas because one of my duties is to slow foreign language stereo audio clips by 4.27% to be able to sync with 23.976 video files. Vegas uses something similar to the Rate Stretch Tool in Premiere. The difference is, the Vegas method works. Rate Stretch is great for Video and maybe Mono files. Not good for Stereo audio files.
When 2022.3 was released is when the Export Tab changed. To slow the audio files, I use the Time Tuner Effect in the Export Tab. It's fast, accurate, reliable and maintains pitch. For me, the Time Tune Effect is my "bread and butter" with my second job. It is critical to my being able to get the job done.
The "updated" Export Tab broke the Time Tuner effect where I can only enter whole numbers. No decimals. So, I started a topic here:
Here is the last reply I received:
"Larry Sullivan commented · April 26, 2022 19:53 · Flag as inappropriate
Hi Bob, we have this logged and are working on it, sorry for the inconvenience. As a workaround until it's fixed please use Time Tuner in AME."
That was over 2 months ago. Fortunately, I was able to import an old preset. The % Duration Change displayed as: -4.269999999999999... percent, but it worked.
Believe it or not, I have another project that needed to have the audio files slowed only .1%. It's not much, but it made my job much easier. Can't do that in the new Export Tab. I managed to import another old preset. Ultimately I recreated the presets in Media Encoder and that worked as well.
I see Resolve in my future, but I'd like to know how it does slowing .wav files by 4.27%.
Good Morning, Larry!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
I didn't actually export a file, but AME gives me EXACTLY what I need!
You saved my life!
Nice way to start my day. Awesome!
Looking forward to seeing it again in Premiere.
Take care and be well.
Larry Sullivan commented
Hi Bob, we have this logged and are working on it, sorry for the inconvenience. As a workaround until it's fixed please use Time Tuner in AME.
Mike Sgroi commented
I can add to this. I too have this same problem. If we can update the time tuner field to include decimals, this would help a great deal.
I realize that the 2022.3.1 update was to fix an Export issue and is not addressing the Time Tuner at all (I checked), but I'm really glad that Adobe is turning out fixes so quickly even with NAB happening this week. I also realize that there are probably not a great number of users using this feature, but I'm really begging you to take another look at adding back 100's of a percent to the percent change box.
If someone could provide another method for slowing down audio files by 4.27% that maintain pitch and is accurate to the frame (at least), I'm all ears.
If someone from Adobe would like a screen sharing session for a demo, please reach out.
Can I at least get an Adobe Employee to confirm that this is at least being read? I can't tell you how important this is to me. Worst case is to wait for 2023 version and install 2022.2 beside it.
Thanks Adobe for all your work.
Just a quick follow-up:
Rate Stretch tool "works", but is not as accurate. Slow down the file to 95.9 and select "Maintain Pitch" button phases the audio. Deselect "Maintain Pitch" and the audio sounds fine except for the obvious slight drop in Pitch.
Lastly, tried "Time & Pitch" with iZotope setting in Audition. Was accurate enough, sounded great. But took 16 minutes to render and export. Sorry, but I don't have that kind of time.
I used the preset created in a previous version and I didn't change the percentage of 4.269999999999996. It worked just fine.
Please, please, please take another look at the Time Tuner tab in the Export tab and give me back 100's of a percent (4.27%).