Export issue when you ADD FRAME HOLD for a graphic (Premiere pro Mac M1 version)
I recently upgraded to Mac M1 updated version of Premiere pro... works like a jiffy now.
Found out this problem recently which happens in few exports...
When I use a text animation graphic... and use ADD FRAME HOLD feature to extend the text all thru the timeline..... while working on premiere pro it doesn't show any issue... but once you export the video... there are duplicate images coming in the exported video (SCREENSHOT ENCLOSED).
The only work around I found for time being was to remove ADD FRAME HOLD portion of the Text graphic... and then COPY PASTE the graphic stacking multiple times... till end of timeline (which is tedious process)... but doing copy-paste instead of Add frame hold... worked for me... the DUPLICATE images didn't come this time while exporting.
Request Adobe team to look into this please.
Miklos Mayer commented
I noticed the exact same issues on Macbook Air M1...
1. Alt-drag only works after 3-5 tries
2. Freeze frames rendered glitching
However, the frame hold glitching only happens when rendered through Media Encoder. If I use Pr Pro's Export function, then the glitching disappears, and render looks alright!
Maybe that helps, cheers!
Joe Unsworth commented
I am also experiencing this issue with frame-holds in Premiere Pro, running an M1 Max MacBook Pro with the Apple Silicon version of Premiere Pro. All frame-holds result in glitching.
The only workaround I have found so far is to export a single frame (of the clip I want to frame-hold) as a JPG/PNG, and then re-importing this as an image into the timeline.
This is NOT an acceptable solution, to be clear - but it is a workaround for now, while we wait for Adobe to release a patch for the bug.
While on the topic of glitches, I find the UX of PrPro to be extremely hit-and-miss on the M1 Max - certain actions like clicking on the 'expand' arrows of elements within Effects Controls (e.g. to expand the Motion / Opacity elements) result in nothing happening until I click the arrow 5-6 times.
Similarly, when clicking in the timeline to move the playhead, there is no response/nothing happens, until I wait a few seconds and click multiple times where I'd like the playhead to move to.
Alt-dragging items in the timeline also seems to have a bug - it doesn't duplicate the first time I alt+drag elements, it simply moves the original element. Then I have to put it back, alt+drag again, and THEN the element gets duplicated. Never experienced this issue before with alt+dragging things around to quickly duplicate.
It doesn't sound like much, but when it slows down your workflow by 5-6 seconds every time you try and click something, or try to perform an action and have to repeatedly try to do the same thing over and over until it works, it quickly becomes a very unpleasant editing experience.
Adobe, please sort these bugs!
andrew sims commented
So glad I found this thread! I'm having this issue too with a 2021 M1 Pro Max running the latest version of Premiere Pro.
However, I am not running into this issue with graphics. I am just running into this issue when putting a frame hold track over top another video track. The video gets glitchy/jumpy only after I export and watch it. Deleting the video track underneath the Frame Hold track fixes the issue. Someone else suggested putting the tracks into a sequence, but that did not fix the issue for me. Only deleting the video track underneath did.
Hope Adobe can fix this soon!
Nicholas Noblit commented
I was also having this same problem and it was very frustrating. I had created a FRAME HOLD and going into a transition, it blinked and strobed like crazy. I did find a way to get around it:
Nest all the sequences and then export it. The glitching, for me at least, went away and it looked perfect.
Give that a shot if you're still struggling.
Christopher Maloney commented
I'm having the EXACT same issue. I've used Frame Hold in other projects before with no exporting issues. Now, with everything fine in the Premiere Project, my export has glitches with the Frame Holds. No graphics added, everything in Premiere (no After Effects), just a Frame Hold. After export, you see the frame hold flickering with another video track. Very frustrating and I can find no fix. HELP!!!!
enclosed screenshot of few .aegraphic FILES I've used from ENVATO
Unfortunately I don't use AFTER EFFECTS at all and don't have it downloaded or subscribed to it.
I pretty much manage everything with Premiere Pro.
The MOGRT files I get from ENVATO are perhaps done in AFTER EFFECTS and usable on Premiere Pro directly (without having to install or use After effects in background)... not sure if that's the reason this issue is occurring... that I don't have After effects installed. The ones from ENVATO I've used are mostly .aegraphic files though.... which while using directly in PREMIERE PRO...it doesn't flag me to install or have AE on my computer.
The echo is happening for the video image as well as the MOGRT Graphics both... all thru the video.
But to confirm.... the ADD FRAME HOLD has been done only for the MOGRT graphic file.... as only the TEXT animation I needed to stretch in the video.... to be available for a set duration of the talk
The video didn't have any HOLD FRAME at all... that is why I was also shocked....
And this was happening in MAC M1 version latest update of Premiere pro...
Since the problem was not getting resolved.... I went ahead and downgraded back to the previous Mac Intel version of Premiere Pro - 15.2.0 and again exported the same video.... and it went ahead exporting just fine... without any echo issues....
Having said that..... when I shut down the premiere pro... and re-open the next day... that same project has issue in opening (even in Mac Intel version of 15.2.0).... so I end up making a new project.... IMPORTING the old project into new one... and continue editing where I left..... :(
This issue occurs only when there is ADD FRAME HOLD involved in that project.....
So I'm assuming it's
1. ADD FRAME HOLD issue
2. Font of original graphic Not available in Premiere Pro (not able to align with MISSING FONT with DEFAULT FONT at backend) issue
3. MOGRT made in AFTER EFFECTS.... and since I don't have After Effects installed..... it's not allowing me to run it smoothly perhaps... not sure... I have enclosed the graphic files I've used.... The ones from ENVATO I've used are mostly .aegraphic files
These are my assumptions.... You may pls revert with your thoughts, once you get a hold on it.
Thanks & Rgds,
Thanks so much for all the detail Vinod!
It sounds like you're using Mogrts that were made in After Effects. I'm going to investigate this issue further and see if I can also reproduce the bug on Mac Intel and Windows. The thing that strikes me as odd in the original image that you shared is that the echoing of images is from the video image not the graphics. 🤔 Just to confirm, are you adding the Hold Frame option to the video too or just the graphics??
In the meantime,
You can open the .mogrt file in After Effects and add the option to change the font and add the option to add Responsive-Design Time to the Mogrt. I think this will give you the functionality of the Hold Frame option that you are looking for in a cleaner workaround.
You can open the mogrt in AE with the following steps:
1. Launch AE
2. Use File > Open (this is the only way to do it)
3. Select the Mogrt file from your desktop or downloads
4. Follow the dialog that pops up and asks you what folder you want to extract the project to
5. and boom you've got the .aep
(Every Mogrt has the related .aep inside)
To add the ability to change the font in Premiere Pro:
1. Open the Essential Graphics Panel
2. Find the Source Text Control and select "Edit Properties"
3. This will open a dialog that will allow you to add the option to change fonts, change font styles, and add faux styles to your text when you're back in Premiere.
Here's a video that will show you how to add Responsive-Design Time to the Mogrt as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdjbd8-2ZdI
Basically you can place the workbar over the place in the timeline where nothing is moving and right-click on it to create Protected Region from selection. You have to do this at the Primary Comp level for it to work in Premeire Pro.
Then Export the Mogrt. Once you're back in Premiere Pro, you can stretch this Mogrt as long as you need it and whatever is within the Protected Region will "hold" in place. If you need to get rid of the outro animation, you can just slice the end of the Mogrt off.
I hope this will be helpful to get you going while we sort out this Hold Frame bug.
Thanks so much for reporting,
Thank you for your response.
Answering to your points...
1. The text animations I am using have been downloaded from ENVATO website... which I use quite regularly without any issues
2. I am exporting in Premiere Pro natively
3. I am attaching few screenshots of the Envato mogrt graphics I use.. they range from JP Modern Titles, Renee studio title, simple lower third.... there are many actually.... and it all runs smoothly... until I do "ADD FRAME HOLD" to those graphic titles.... and stretch it over the timeline..... It not only gives the ECHO issue while exporting.... but now I've noticed it is not LOADING the PROJECT itself when I reopen the next day... and get stuck... attempting to load.
The only workaround I found for this is.... Open a NEW PROJECT... import the previous project to the new one... and continue where I left...
I have also noticed that some of the ENVATO graphics does not have option to change the Font type being used.... so if I don't have their Font type in premiere pro.... it perhaps takes "Missing Font Replacement" (I've put it as ROBOTO CONDENSED BOLD).... Not sure if the missing font or FONT NOT AVAILABLE BY DEFAULT in the graphic is an issue while doing ADD FRAME HOLD.
Any suggestions to resolve this ADD FRAME HOLD ISSUE will be definitely helpful.
Since I edit videos which require the text animation to be stretched all thru their talks..... I badly need a solution to get things moving. Copy pasting same text multiple times till end of my timeline was my another workaround...but that's quite tedious task and increases my editing time.
All screenshots below are the GRAPHICS used with ADD FRAME HOLD feature.
Thank you for the tip on Responsive-Design time for Mogrts..... didn't know about this... shall definitely use it while I'm making my own Graphic titles... or using KEY FRAMES... it's quite a useful feature.... and glad you told about this....
I am not sure if it might be help for ADD FRAME HOLD... ??
Whooooaa! That's really wild echoing. A few quick Q's:
Are you using a text animation graphic that was created in Premiere Pro or After Effects?
Are you exporting from Premiere Pro natively or through Adobe Media Encoder?
Would you mind sharing the graphic that you're using if possible?
Lastly, have you heard of Responsive-Design Time in Mogrts??? Adding this functionality will allow you to designate parts of your graphic to "hold" the time in just those protected regions regardless of how long you stretch the graphic.
Thank you for reporting this and hope to get you back on track soon!