Move Captions to the bottom of the screen
It would be useful to be able to move the captions all the way to the bottom of the screen.
This is by design. We always keep captions within safe margins (10%). Would an option to defeat this restriction be useful or is it better to remove this safeguard all together. Opinions welcome.
That is a really silly design. You think your users are unable to determine where the best placement of their titles are?
Dragan Mocelj commented
It would be useful to have an option to defeat this restriction if needed!
Chris Wonder commented
With the explosion of social media videos and so many mixed format videos there are a lot of instances where it's necessary to move the captions out of the 16x9 safe margins. I understand the instinct to make sure it's broadcast safe, but I think it would be sufficient to just have some sort of warning for the user rather than completely limit their ability to move the captions down.
Tyler Hanson commented
Custom positioning of captions? Are you crazy?! Think of the damage it could cause! If anyone from 1997 were to watch a video CD of my captions below the safe margin, they would be out of luck! Do you think you can just put captions wherever you want as if you're a video creator!? Jim!!! You mad man.
Can you give us an update as to when you think you might defeat this restriction or remove the safeguard altogether? A LOT of people in my organization would start using Premiere Pro day one for captioning if this happens!
Can we AT LEAST get another response from Adobe about this suggestion? It's ridiculous that there has been no acknowledging the amount of feedback that has been given. FIFTY FIVE COMMENTS, all of which are in support of removing the restriction.
Not to mention, if 100% of the comments are in support of removing it, there's no doubt many many more users not involved in this conversation that are wanting the restriction removed too.
Every time I get an email about comments made on this thread, and others, that are just people literally begging Adobe to even acknowledge their feedback about something, it makes me lose even more faith in the company (not that I have much at this point anyway, but.)
Arjun mahajan commented
@francis Crossman Yes. I also attached a screenshot of my current workflow. Even shared a recording explaining why do we need this change. It would be great if this change is made at the earliest. Many thanks!
Manuel Gilbert commented
Please give us back the creative freedom! We have projects with a special display situation where we can control the screen visibility. For that our customer requires us to move the subtitles to the very edge of the screen.
We can do it with all other essential graphics elements. So why not with subtitles?
As soon as you enter a position value >0 it would be ok if Premiere gives a warning, but lets you proceed. Or you could add a "restrict to safe margins" checkbox that we can uncheck if needed.
Andreas Ramin commented
Yes, please remove the limitations, as they are out of date and only aply to broadcast. (and everyone who works for broadcast should know what they are doing)
Fabian Prager commented
Please remove it as soon as possible. Safe margins are nice for orientation but they should never limit the freedom of creativity. Right now it may be suitable for broadcast editors but for almost everyone else the caption tool is utterly useless.
While we're at it: please let me toggle on two subtitle tracks simultaneously. I don't want Premiere to decide stuff like this for me. As a rule of thumb: Options are always better!
Sakari Luhtala commented
Keeping captions and subtitles within safe margins derives from broadcast type situations. Then again in broadcast there is usually completely separate workflows for captioning and subtitles. I suspect majority of captioning and subtitling done in Premiere is made for different social media platforms and there a hard limit of 10% to safe margins does not make sense. Please let editors decide for themselves. Maybe you can add a checkbox for broadcast users to enable the hard stops at safe margins.
Joao Da Silva commented
Safe margins are mostly a legacy TV standard based on CRT screens. For social media these restrictions do not make sense as you use almost the totality of the frame. I agree with other users, set ir by default but let users change it at will to fit their workflow. I my case to fit a client's template I had to export the subtitles and then paste them back as a video file just to be able to position it slightly lower. far from ideal.
Jim Mahan commented
It's been almost 4 months since Francis Crossman, Sr. Product Manager, Adobe DVA posted his explanation of this restriction and asked for our opinions. 100% of the opinions expressed here have asked for the position restriction to be removed.
We have not heard from Francis since...why?
Ankit Jhunjhunwala commented
This is a terrible limitation. I want a subtitle all the way to the left and I am unable to position it there. Please remove this limitation.
Arjun mahajan commented
@francis Crossman The idea is to keep the captions free so that Social media stuff can be created more systematically.
I have been using the same concept for my client for a long time and they prefer the balanced look over the look set by margins.
V.14.9 allows the captions to free flow all across the screen. But Version 15 and above do not have that facility. Even I am stuck here and forced to use 14.9 for quite a long time now.
Please see the screenshot of my active workflow for a better understanding.
It's fine to "keep the captions within a safe margin". This can simply be the default that will be used by a lot of people I'm guessing. The current version allows us to "Set Vertical Position" to a positive number....the Captions just don't respond. Please fix this.
Thomas Yeu commented
I would say, we are not "defeating" the restriction. Rather, it is allowing creators all the options and creative freedom for placement and design. If there is really a need to safeguard users who are unaware of the idea of safe margin, add warning tooltip for them and allow us to override the placement restriction. And yes, I mean all restriction, not just the bottom.
Mr Crossman asked us and we have responded. I just hope it's near the top of their list of changes to make.
Justin Meisinger commented
Agreed on needing an update to this, I am sticking v14 (2020) until this is resolved. It makes the new version unusable for my workflow.
Jim Mahan commented
I agree...we could use this now. I think the jury is out on removing this restriction. I wonder if Adobe is reading these comments.