Move Captions to the bottom of the screen
It would be useful to be able to move the captions all the way to the bottom of the screen.
Jim Mahan
shared this idea
This is by design. We always keep captions within safe margins (10%). Would an option to defeat this restriction be useful or is it better to remove this safeguard all together. Opinions welcome.
91 comments
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Myles Thomas
commented
Exactly Damien. Online video doesn't need safe margins. Why hamper us in this way? Even when editing for broadcast, you might want to exceed safe margins anyway. Seems crazy not to be allowed to.
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Damien Poncelin-de-Raucourt
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Safe margins are not needed for most of video productions nowadays so it's a shame we still are stuck with limitations from the past...
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Conor McGahey
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I have no words for Adobe anymore... if you dont step up, we will all slowly transition to resolve. Any news Francis, the latest update has still not fixed this issue and its been 10 months. I've found a work around if anyone is looking for a solution, create your captions normally using the caption panel, after you've finished, duplicate the seq you just worked on and rename it captions. Delete everything except the captions on that seq. then right click in the project panel on the new seq and click 'new sequence from clip' then copy that clip to your original sequence, and your able to move it freely in the effect control panel.
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Myles Thomas
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Until this problem is fixed I have to use the previous version of Premiere Pro. I need the captions to go a tiny bit lower in screen to make room for other graphics like baselines etc.
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Russell Lickteig
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My Crossman...it's been eight months since you asked us our opinion on removing this safeguard. Will this be happening? Would really be helpful to me and apparently everyone else here. Thanks!
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Pat Lee
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Still no change in this limitation, even on the newest v22.1.1 which touts a “revamped” text engine.
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Carrie Lyn
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Remove the safegaurd altogether, and just make the "within safe margins" as the default position. But remove the safegaurd. That way we can move them lower if we want.
Let's be honest here, doesn't matter which approach you take, you need to provide us this option again. Whether we can just move the captions, or whether we have to check a box to be able to move the captions.
Really we just need to option to move them somehow. -
Zac Hope
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I think an option to disable the restriction would be fine, just having the option to move them at least to action-safe will be super useful for me
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Peter C
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It would be very useful for those of us not working in broadcast. If you are delivering to screens in a public facing environment, like a museum, then we know where the 'bottom' of the screen is. It would be extremely useful to be able to move the captions right to the bottom. Many thanks.
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Matt Chandronait
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Just another voice added to the chorus, here. Please give us the ability to align captions by pixel and to move it out of the action safe/title safe margins.
To those asking, Dan j Francis's comment below is the current workaround and I can confirm that it works fine. Basically put your captions sequence as a layer on top of everything else inside your edit sequence and then you can move it around like most layers using the Effect Controls panel.
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Dan j Francis
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Okay, since Adobe doesn't seem to care or have the integrity to respond to everyone who has commented that the new system kills workflow, I have a work around that is working well for us that I will share.
Treat your captions like a composition rather than making it a part of your timeline.
What I mean by this is duplicate whatever comp you are captioning.
Name the duplicate captions.
Do all your transcribing and make the captions in the captions composition.
When done turn off all video and audio in the composition with the captions.
Bring the composition with the captions back into the original comp, unlink, and delete the audio track.
Now you can move the captions composition around like a layer and put them wherever is desired.This of course is a work-around, but as we know when Adobe drops the ball and fumbles, it can take them a long time to fix the issue and often they just ignore it, like they are doing now, so it is up to us to bypass their system and come up with ways to make things work.. and this is my best solution to date.
Happy editing everyone! Let's hope Adobe soon acknowledges their mistake and work on fixing it ASAP. Captions need to function as a layer, not as a stationary timeline. -
Tom Newman
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Literally astonished that I found this thread. Wtf were you guys thinking?
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Andreas Nilsson
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Please remove the restrictions of placing subtitles lower than the safe margins, or implement an option so we can do so ourselves. So frustrating!
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Duncan Leigh
commented
This restriction is unhelpful and removes a function that was previsouly easy to do in Essential Graphics. Safe margins have two functions; one to prevent issues caused by old brooadcast standards and two, for aesthetic purposes. The former no longer applies in 99% of use cases, and the latter is something the artist can decide for themselves.
If you want to keep the feature for noobs, then it's as simple as checkbox in the EG panel saying 'Enable Safe Margin Restriction' and job done. Please, please remove the restriction.
There are many cases where we may want text right at the edge of the screen, aesthetically pleasing or not.
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Pat Lee
commented
Before v15, when the caption track was treated as a video layer, we could use the motion controls to move it anywhere we like.
It is now IMPOSSIBLE to do this. So, yes please, an option to "defeat this restriction" is essential.
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Daniel Allard
commented
This is completely infuriating! So many editors need to have captions below the safe title line!
I've had it with Adobe updates ruining workflows I've had for ages.
If a fix isn't patched by the end of the month I'm switching to DaVinci. Or I'm just going to become a dog walker. I'm so done with this. -
Ronnie Bushell
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Please make this a feature. I have tried making my own suggestion but I'm met with an error (typical). The function of captions is to speed up the process of subtitling via SRT files but the customisation options are very clunky and completely limiting. If we were just able to apply effects directly to caption layers this wouldn't be an issue but we are having to use the essential graphics tab which is very ineffective. Remove the safeguarding but leave the default position to the safe margins, then it is up to the user (as it should be).
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Russell Lickteig
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Mr Crossman. Back in April you asked our opinion about would "defeating this restriction be useful or is it better to remove this safeguard all together?" How is this going? Seems clear to me that everyone wants this safeguard removed. I could really use this feature today.
Also, the ability to upload our own approved scripts prior to running the Transcribe process. The combination of our scripts and the Transcribe process would be a total game-changer for Open Captions (or CC) workflow. This would literally save me hours of work per video.
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ed cartledge
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Safe margins aren't always essential in work for the web.
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Russell Lickteig
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Hey Mr. Crossman. Any news you can share on giving the user full control of the placement of the captions? Thanks!!!