recorded frame rate
We need the ability to view recorded Frame Rate in the Project files list view. It only shows conformed frame rate which very surprising and problematic for many scenarios. For example when creating proxies through Premiere the proxies don't respect the conformed rates but originally recorded rates and there is no way to tell which is which inside Premiere which is kind of insane.
If you’ve gone to the trouble of changing the frame rate once the media is imported into PPro, what use is the original recorded frame rate?
In what proxy generation cases, does PPro ignore the interpreted frame rate? [If you’re generating proxies upon ingest, there’s no way to interpret the frame rate before creating those proxies…]
Mark Ledford commented
It looks like my proxy workflow below isn't working as expected because the first Premiere usability bug I mentioned is causing the proxy clips to not align to the cuts made to the source material on the timeline. It looks like this problem is well documented with work arounds here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/proxy-workflow-with-interpreted-footage-the-answer/td-p/9486015?page=1
This issue is actually much more problematic than the original request here. Generating proxies for conformed footage in Premiere doesn't work the way editors expect it and the way it works with other video editing applications. This is going to just be more and more of a problem as 4k 120 becomes more and more prevalent with cameras like the Sony a7s III and Canon R5.
Mark Ledford commented
Thanks for the quick feedback Bruce! In my workflow I shoot a ton of mixed frame rate 10 bit 4k footage. The 10 bit 24 fps footage can easily be reviewed outside of Premiere but the 60 / 120 fps cannot playback outside of Premiere. So I use Premiere to quickly review all clips, delete the bad clips, and trim the good clips before creating my proxies directly in Premiere.
The workflow goes like this:
1. Import all my video clips into Premiere in a single file system drag into the program.
2. Select all clips that need conforming in the Premiere project and conform them in one go.
3. Then drag all clips from the Project Files list to the timeline where it automatically lines them up end to end. Here I can now easily review all footage, am able to decide if entire clips are of no value and should be deleted, and trim the good clips. I do not need proxies at this stage as everything plays back well and I don't want to create proxies for entire clips I have decided I want to throw out before even creating proxies.
4. Once everything is pruned, I create the proxies by selecting all the remaining files right clicking and initiating the proxy process. This adds all clips to Media Encoder queue but does not respect the interpret footage status of the original clips. All proxy clips are not conformed though I had already set the original clips to be conformed. I would consider this another usability bug. To work around this I need to right click on the files in the Media Encoder queue and conform them all again in one go. If I forget to do this second conform for proxies I have to re-encode the proxies. I refer to the original recorded framerate in the Project Files list view which is super helpful for this but it gets wiped out once conformed. So I have to create a new project and drag all files into it just to be able to get this overview again.
My workflow above can likely be improved but it's just one of many examples of where we just need to be able to expose recorded framerate in the list view. When googling all I see is numerous complaints about similar scenarios with no solution. If we have a ton of mixed framerate footage that is conformed we still need to be able to reference which clips were originally shot at high speed otherwise from the file list we can't tell what is actually slowmo (and what degree of slowmo) and what is realtime. Doesn't that make sense?