ProRes RAW ISO, white-balance and tint controls
Give ProRes Raw control over White-Balance, ISO and tint in raw controls as well as log conversion. Then it will be useable.
I'm a product manager in the video team at Adobe and I've recently become the product manager specifically responsible for formats.
My apologies that we have not responded already to this post. ProRes RAW is definitely important to us - and, more specifically, the additional controls that are being ask for here.
Raw support is very important to us, particularly as it becomes more common thanks to devices like the Ninja V and cameras that support it directly like the Nikon Z9.
Currently, there are two raw formats ahead of ProRes RAW in terms of urgency for us to support better. I understand that might be frustrating to people eager for better ProRes RAW support but I want ensure you all that it's not a matter of indifference or neglect.
While I don't have a date for improved ProRes RAW support that I'm willing to share at this point, I will update this note when that changes.
Lastly, I'm alway happy to talk 1:1 with you about our formats support. It's critically important to us and getting your feedback directly is always welcome.
Moritz Ermert commented
may I ask if you've got some learnings from implementing other RAW features in the past, that could give us an Idea how long it may take to get the prores raw controls?
Johan Gass commented
I own a s1h with a ninja V, I tried prores raw 6k but honestly it was a pain to work with it in premiere pro. I tried a 16bit 3rd file from red digital website after that and my mind was blown away with the quality and the easyness to work with it on premiere. I owne now a red komodo and I am so happy ! I still have my s1h for bcam and for very fast run n gun situation. So I hope one day the proresrae
w files from my ninja will be as super cool to edit as the 3rd files to match even better my komodo with my s1h for high end shooting.
Any update? It's been almost 2 months since the last one. What's the point of a product manager specifically responsible for formats if we're left in the dark regarding the rollout of crucial codecs needed to do our jobs
Ben Garza commented
Hey Fergus, thanks for the update.
I think we're all surprised when Adobe interacts with its users. I hope there is a shift in Adobe's philosophy to keep up with the competition. It is increasingly more difficult to justify CC Suite vs Davinci Resolve. I myself am very seriously considering leaving Adobe for Resolve. It's not so much the price as much as the lack of innovation. It feels like Adobe doesn't innovate because they are so big and don't need to, therefore, the users suffer.
I want to be clear, I don't want to change because I know CC and how the apps work. I have my workflow down. But I will if I have to.
Thommy Mross commented
Thank you for the update Fergus. Although it doesn't really solve the problem and stills leaves us desperate, at least we now know that there are people at Adobe that even seem to know about it.
It was a hard decision, but I've just renewed my CreativeCloud subscription (for one last time) and I really hope this will be fixed VERY SOON... please don't disappoint me Adobe.
Thanks for the update Fergus.
Please keep in mind Adobe rolled out Prores RAW back in May 2020 (almost 2 years ago now!!) so I apologize if we're still skeptical and annoyed that there are 2 other RAW formats ahead of Prores RAW.
As not only a Z6/Ninja V Prores RAW but also a Z9 shooter, please don't ***** up the Nikon RAW rollout like you did with Prores RAW.
And please provide more timely updates. A lot of us do this for a living and have been patiently waiting 2 years with a half baked solution and it feels like we're not getting full value for the immense amount of money we throw your way every month. More words and more importantly, more action please.
We've supported you for a long time. All we ask is for you to reciprocate.
Wow, it has been quite a while and no support in this area. I'm thinking of going DaVinci Resolve myself. For the amount of money I pay to have Adobe CC which I only use PP and AE Adobe should be leading the industry. I use some of the other apps occasionally so I can negotiate in my mind that I'm getting good value. But, the truth is I pay the premium to have good software and not be limited and here we are being limited. I need Adobe to be more transparent, more engaging, and more sensitive to the people who are paying this high premium. Almost $1000 a year per user and pay for a team, when other software has the features we are complaining about with a one time payment for the software.
Pablo Saitua commented
R. Neil Haugen commented
This is so obviously needed ... sheepers, folks!
Jordan Fish commented
Already voted but adding a comment here to +1 this request. There's currently a huge gap in the implementation, and we've been waiting well over a year for this.
Vincent Philpott commented
I know this is crazy to ask but is there any sign of any comment from Adobe about this?
Alex Vietinghoff commented
Alright, Adobe. Want to be considered software for professionals? Then give us the WB and other controls professionals expect and are paying for.
This is why we have invested so much money in Adobe CC to stay up to date with creativity tools. If Adobe is not going to give us the tools needed then the question is why keep paying them? The ability to be as creative as possible has been where they hang their hat. Now that creators has trusted that same slogan in this case Adobe has been a "no show". Sad to see lesser platforms give this support and Adobe continues to ignore the people who are paying them.
Vincent Philpott commented
Well over a year since this, more cameras coming out with ProRes raw support. Another max has been and gone with no update.
Talk about passing the buck. This should have been done a year ago. This is just absolute laziness that this hasn't been done already and now a user voice thing.
Christopher Campbell commented
I am astonished that Adobe hasn't made this a priority, as not having control over ISO and white balance effectively cripples Premiere Pro as a competitive editor. I'm reinstalling Final Cut Pro X this evening!
Joel De La Cruz commented
Why is this not available yet??
Yue Xiang Aaron Ang commented
Basic features and FREQUENT crashes.
Thommy Mross commented
This is ridiculous Adobe. Seriously considering switching to FCPX.
Less crashes, ISO & WB ProResRaw adjustments ✔️ I don't want to, but it's getting harder and harder to justify the (monthly) costs. It simply takes too long for you to implement such basic functions
It pains me to see us be held back by such a basic task that other inferior platforms are already doing. This would be a great benefit for the users of Premiere Pro CC. So why is it in our best interest to keep paying monthly for missing features that can be gotten from other NLE that are not as expensive?