Essential Graphic Templates are extremely slow to the point of useless.
I created templates in After Effects to use in the Premier Pro Essential Graphics editor and for some reason it is next to unusable due to lag and the time it takes to render a simple text animation. The goal is to save time but it is actually taking 20 times longer. I don't have a solution as I do not know how Essential Graphics work, but it just doesn't seem worth the headache to use it at this point.
Sharul Hafiz commented
Is this still active?
I'm using the MOGRT file slows down Premiere Pro (PP) tremendously, every click and scroll needs to wait for a second or two or more. I looked at my CPU, ram, and disk in task manager, and they are not even 50%, but I can see PP appear not responding, I need to wait for it to be responsive again.
I assume it's PP itself, not a hardware issue. I have
Ryzen 5 3600
Mert Bengisu commented
It's not the essential graphics you have downloaded, the MOGRT files, or the tooth fairy. It's Premiere Pro itself, unable to handle the motion graphics assets properly. Let's accept this fact.
On my M1 Pro MacBook, I can edit 4K, preview in full, and use advanced color and effects layers. All works fine. Until I drop an essential graphic template to the project. Whenever I do that, the project slows down, random freezes and black screens, extreme lag, and more.
Now you can look for workarounds like rendering assets, going to After Effects, and using mogrt files as aep's (yes, dynamic link files work better than mogrt files in my experience), but Adobe needs to fix this and get this working.
For all I know, Final Cut Pro can play 4K videos with motion graphics at the full quality/resolution playback on my machine.
So if you are looking for a solution, it's not your workflow, assets, or machine. It's Adobe. Sad by true.
Parag Joshi commented
I am having the same issue, I created custom mogrt for my channel and I can see clearly that when rendering from Media Encoder 2022 my mogrt takes way too long to render than others I downloaded from Envato. I need some help fixing this issue.
Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10850K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz
Corsair Dominator 64GB DDR5
Windows 10 Pro 21H1
Samsung 970 EVO Plus
GeForce RTX 3090
Ivo Piscevic commented
May I join in the conversation two years later (!) as I'm experiencing the same problems as others in this forum, which don't seem to have been solved so far.
I understand you are having trouble getting all the answers / files as requested in order to replicate the process, so I might well be your man for this :)
Baiscally I am experiencing exactly the same issues as others here - .mogrt files would be tremendously slow to render and just make the whole project unusable.
I have cleaned the cache, updated Premiere and my graphic card with the latest driver, to no avail.
My system specs are as follows :
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 3.79Ghz
1Tb SSD Nmve
Windows 10 (up-to-date)
Radeon Sapphire RX570 8Gb (up-to-date)
PREMIERE version : 22.4 (the same problem occurs with older version)
I tried to attach one .mogrt file that makes the whole project lag, but the forum here won't let me add the attached file. The email in my profile is unfortunately not in use anymore but I can send you my actual one, if you'd be so kind as to send me an adress I can first send you the files to.
Please let me know if you need any other infos that might help, and thanks in advance for your efforts in trying to solve that issue!
With best regards
Ben Spear commented
Experiencing same problem here on a beefy i7, 64gb RAM, GeForce RTX 3080 build. Latest build of PP 22.4.0 (Build 57).
@Dacia I would like to get involved and supply you some MOGRTs that I have been given to use that cause painfully slow renders (like 5-6 times longer than without, if even 10x longer!!). How do I go about contributing? Please feel free to email me with the email I have on my account. Thanks!
That would be great. Let me send you an email.
Ryan Page commented
Can I send you some MOGRT's that are taking a painfully long time to render?
Previsha P commented
Has anyone fixed this issue?
That is so incredibly frustrating. Was there a crash report generated after the app failed?
It looks like the Mogrt from Envato that you linked is a Media Replacement Mogrt. If so, what kind of footage are you dropping into the Essential Graphics Panel?
Would you be able to share the project or a video capture of what of the failure so we can try and reproduce the problem?
It would also be super helpful to know what version of Premiere you're using and your system specs.
Max Wilson commented
This is what I see before it crashes
Max Wilson commented
I am also having this problem, I've painfully managed to use the MOGRT to finish a project but now its too slow to export.
I used this - https://elements.envato.com/gallery-slideshow-ZCRAEGE
Please help... I could lose my job over this if it's not complete in time!
Can you share what version of Premiere you're using and your system specs please?
Mogrts can be slow for a multitude of reasons-- expression-heavy comps, 3D layers, lots of render-intensive effects, etc. Envato is a third-party marketplace so it's hard for us to know exactly what is wrong with your specific Mogrts without being able to open them up and see what the slowdown could be due to. I'll email you directly if you want to share them.
There are also ways to optimize them to make them more nimble. One thing you can do is open them up in AE and run the new Composition Profiler on them. This will show you what layers are taking the most time to render.
To open a Mogrt natively in AE:
1. Launch AE
2. Use File > Open
3. Select the Mogrt file
4. Follow the dialog that pops up and asks you what folder you want top extract the project to
and boom you've got the .aep
Every Mogrt has the related .aep inside
Once you have the .aep opened in AE, click on the small icon at the bottom left of the app. This will show you what layers are the most "expensive" render-wise and you may want to replace some of these layers with pre-rendered files if there isn't anything in them that will change in Premiere.
Another way that performance can be impacted negatively is when there are too many versions of a design crammed into the same Mogrt. If each version is relying on a ton of expressions (which they often are) to make them responsive to changes, then all of the expressions in all of the variations of the design are being run by AE... even the ones that aren't visible. That can really slow things down. Re-exporting these versions as individual Mogrts can be very helpful to boost performance as well.
The other thing about Mogrts behaving well in Premiere is that they typically need to be Pre-Rendered (I use Render Selection after making my desired edits), in order to see a smooth playback. Giving the AE inside of PR the ability to render and cache the animations before hitting playback is simply a limitation of the way AE and Premiere communicate those value changes and the resulting frames.
We are hoping to bring Multi-Frame Rendering to the version of AE inside of Premiere soon. Fingers crossed that will help with performance as well.
In the meantime, the best thing is to see if it's possible to optimize the Mogrts. I'll email you directly now and see what we can glean from cracking open the files.
Nastacia Kelsey commented
Any solution to this? I just subscribe to Envato Elements and all the mogrts I download are useless due to such intense lag I might as well animate everything myself.
Hi Brandy! I will send you an email so we can look at this more closely
BRANDY LEONARD commented
Hi, I'm having this problem with mogrts too. I paid for one - specifically to use for a project in Premiere Pro, and it lags/won't work as intended - and worse, slows down my entire project as it skips and lags.
In fact, all the free mogrts do this too (tried replacing the one I bought, with different free ones on the Adobe site after getting desperate).
This is really really frustrating. And I've got a Macbook pro 2020.
My project is due in a cpl days.
Awesome! Thank you Marc 🙏🏽
I will email you directly.
Marc Bielenberg commented
Wie converted the Morgts in AE21 to work with them.
I would love to share the Morgt with you- and a screen recording.
Could I send it via PM because it is developed by our company and don't know the rules with the copyright.
How could I get in contact with you -
Hi Marc and Mod-AP,
I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing this and I would really love to help. I've been replying to users who are complaining about this issue for while, and no one will share any of their files or reply back. This makes it incredibly difficult to narrow down what might be the cause of the slow down.
Mogrts can be slow for a multitude of reasons-- expression-heavy comps, lots of render-intensive effects, etc. There are also ways to optimize them to make them more nimble.
It sounds like the Mogrts you are working with were performing better in previous releases?
Can you please share what version your Mogrts were performing well in, what version they started slowing down?
It's also way easier to help repro a potential bug or help give guidance on how to optimize your Mogrts if I can check them out myself. If you could share them with me that would be super helpful.
I need some help to try and help. So, if you could please send me a few of your simple mogrts, and maybe if you're up to it, a screen recording of what you're experiencing, we can have something to go on, and get to the bottom of things.
Will you be the gem that gets back to me finally?
I hope so!
Marc Bielenberg commented
I also have these problems with our essential graphics.
I have massive lag in my performance and as written before far longer rendering times.
My System: MacBookpro,2,6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7,32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4,Radeon Pro 555X 4 GB.
I am running Adobe Premiere and After Effects in the newest version and (due to my company) in the 2021 Version.
We also experienced extremely slow performance with some custom made AE Essential Graphics in Premiere (CC2021 on new HP Z4 Workstation, Nvidia RTX4000, 64GB RAM, etc.)
The .mogrt was made on macs with CC2020. Still found no solution to that.