Read LTC/AUX TC from audio track
Our camera crews are working more and more with recording TC embedded onto the audio track because there is no “TC in” on some cameras. You need this TC, for example, to be able to group clips in multicamera productions. At the moment Premiere Pro is not able to read this TC. DaVinci Resolve and Avid both have this feature and it is desperately needed to optimize basic multicamera production workflows. I have found a few requests on here but had the need to open another one and reference those in mine. We have the feeling that many users of Premiere Pro are eagerly awaiting this feature.
At the moment there are plugins like "TentacleSync" or "LTCConvert" which can help you work around this issue but it would be a crucial feature for Premiere Pro and all those who want to work with embedded TCs in Audio.
I have the feeling these posts all basically want the same thing more or less.
Max Kerkhoff commented
Please just fix this problem. Compared to all the other features you'Re churning out, this seems really doable. I really don't want to rely on third party software or something fcp7 did out of the box, as do all other serious NLEs!
Chris Christian commented
PLEASE ADD THIS!!! Yes Resolve and Media Composer already do this. It is more common to be on set with camera's that don't have TC built in (the kind you can jam TC into), so LTC has really taken off to solve that problem. Solutions from Tentacle (Sync and Sync E) and TCS/Atomos (UltraSync One), etc; are bringing TC via LTC on one channel of the audio track into camera's that in the past didn't have sync'able TC.
Trying to refine my workflow as much as possible. Everytime I turn around, it seems like Davinci Resolve is ahead on things like this?
James Clark commented
I didn't know they couldn't do this. That's a shame, I don't come across it very often but it's a great way of doing things.
Peter Delahunty, adobe just added /Sound timecode/ into their multi-camera menu. It is still not working properly but it is very nice that they listen to us and they added this feature finally in this release.
Peter Delahunty commented
I absolutely need this feature for working with multiple non timecode capable cameras. I currently have to use 3rd party software to create xml's which import as timelines and this is less than acceptable. Adobe needs to focus more on the basics of professional workflows rather than endlessly adding shiny gadgets.
Christoph Wieboldt commented
This is my problem too. My audio recorder produce the master timecode, and I send it to an audio track of cams without TC-Input (eg. Sony FS5 / FS7, all DSLRs).
@Antoine: The Timecode-LTC is a "bizzz" sound on the audio track. This has to be convert to meta data of the video file. Then it is easy to sync video files with the audio master TC via timecode.
It would be a great benefit and time saver to have this inside Premiere Pro and not only by extern software!
Mr. Premiere lacks Linear timecode for his multiple camera setup but it's Avid that Mr. Davinci did Resolve his problems with Linear timecode workflow. Very Smart is Mr. Davinci! Now you can premiere your work and its pretty Avid that your workflow is much more Resolved.
Ok, attaching it doesnt work. Lets try it like this.
One of the usecases is the following: We have a multicamera production with two Sony-PMW 700 (which have a TC in) and one Sony Z90 (doesn't have the TC in). To enable syncing with the timecode in post production we attach a "Tentacle Sync" device to the Z90 and embedd the TC onto one of the Audio tracks. With Avid we can simply read the audio timecode and group the clips.
Here are two test files, hope i can attach them correctly. They were recorded with a Sony Z90.
Clip 0018 has the TC embedded on A1
Clip 0019 has the TC embedded on A2
The iphone shown has an offset of two frames but the cameras synched up with the Z90 all have the correct timecode.
Curtis Judd commented
I agree with this request. Media Composer and Resolve both do this. Important feature for Premiere to be taken more seriously by bigger productions.
Antoine Autokroma commented
Ofer that's great there are some timecode metadata inside the audio channel. So you do not only want to read the TC and show it in PrPro interface, you actually want to sync the audio to the video, right ?
Theoretically, if there was one TC Start for each audio clip you have in your Project Panel that you recorded with those special hardware, would it be enough if the audio clip selected in Project Panel was inserted at the specific Start TC in the timeline ?
Since you would create your sequence from video tracks they would begin from the video clip Start TC
I will gather some test files and screenshots and attach them here. Might take a moment since im unable to give out files from ongoing productions.
Antoine Autokroma commented
Could you give more information ? A mockup, some screenshots, a file that has the TC to be displayed etc.