Everything wrong with Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2. Let get captioning fixed asap!
Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2* have several problems.
(*Windows10. May be different on Mac.). Here is a thread of all of the problems I've found in captions so far. While there are several threads already that point out individual issues, I'm hoping that bringing all of the issues together in a single mega thread will help get captions Adobe's prompt attention. Here we go!
NO BURN IN: Exporting a video through Media Encoder doesn't burn in captions even if the "Burn Captions Into Video" option is selected in Premiere Pro's Export Settings. The captions only get burned in if the video is exported directly through Premiere Pro.
DUPLICATES: If a captions file is duplicated in the project window, any changes done to the duplicate don't appear in the Program Monitor. In order to have changes appear, Premiere Pro needs to be restarted.
SELECT ALL: The Captions window is missing the standard CTRL-A keyboard shortcut to easily select all captions at once. This strange omission makes it unnecessarily difficult to select all the captions in a clip to make global appearance changes.
LEADING CONTROL: Captions need an easy way to control the space between lines, such as a Leading control that can work on individual captions, or all of the selected captions at once. (See illustration “Captions 1”) The current "Set Vertical Position (%)" option only works on a single caption at a time and requires the user to manually select the text in the second line. This takes far more time and effort than it should for something so simple.
DEFAULT LEADING: The default leading in captions is far too large and therefore ugly. The default leading between caption lines should be reduced to an aesthetically pleasing amount (See “Captions 2”)
KERNING CONTROL: The Captions window is also missing a way to control the spacing between characters in a caption. A Legacy Titler-style Kerning control is needed for Open captions.
MOTION SETTINGS: Copy/pasting the Motion settings of one captions clip to another in the Timeline does not work.
OFF-CENTER: By default, captions are off-center to the right by 5 pixels. When using captions in a narrow format video (1x1, 4x5, etc.) in which captions can stretch out to the edges of the frame, this error can become apparent. This incorrect centering can also become apparent in any sized video when captions line up with another title or graphic that’s centered on screen. (see “Captions 3”)
SPACING: If a two line caption is turned back into a single line, the space between the last character of the first line and the first character of the second line becomes incorrectly large. Even if characters are added or removed from the caption, the larger gap remains (see “Captions 4”)
MULTI-MOVING: It’s possible to select and even Shift-select multiple captions in a captions clip. So why isn’t it possible to do anything whatsoever with this selection? At the very least, Premiere Pro should let editors move a selection of captions up or down the captions clip for retiming purposes. Imagine having a video with 100 captions, only to have the client request that something be added or removed halfway into the video. This currently requires the editor to manually correct the timing of all captions beyond the change one by one… by one… by one… by one… This is sheer insanity and needs to be fixed ASAP!
BIGGER HANDLES: Captions and handles remain the same tiny size in the Timeline, no matter how much the video track is expanded. This makes it all too easy for users to accidentally move the captions clip itself when trying to retime a caption/handle. Captions and handles should grow accordingly when increasing the size of the video track they’re on. (see “Captions 5”)
Do you know of any captioning issues I missed? If so, please add them to the list!
Please vote and comment to help get Adobe’s attention on this matter!
In this day and age of Facebook/Instagram videos, open captioning has become a must. We need captioning tools that work properly asap!
We have completely redesigned the captioning workflow in Premiere Pro version 15.0. You will see many dramatic workflow improvements. Please update to the latest version.
Learn all about the new captions workflow here: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/user-guide.html/premiere-pro/using/working-with-captions.ug.html
Jeff Schaap commented
I DREAD any Pr project I am assigned that involves captions. The implementation is STILL fraught with issues... I am on the latest version of Pr and it's the exact same issues I've had for many versions. I downloaded an SBV file from YouTube converted it to an SRT with an online tool, and imported the SRT into Pr. The changes I make to captions in Pr (splitting a long caption into two lines for example) have no effect on the clip in the timeline. The edits appear in the caption panel but that's it. If I do a "Make Offline" on the SRT clip and then reconnect it the changes appear.... The caption system has been a mess for far, far too long. Issues like this were supposed to see more immediate attention under the subscription model.
Update: after about 20 minutes of working with it, suddenly everything starts behaving as it should. The captions update when I split lines and I can re-time their in and outs no problem. After 30 minutes or so of that suddenly, I can't slide the in-point anymore... I have to move the out point and then MOVE the whole caption left if I want to change the in point. Secondly, and I've seen this other times I've worked on captions, if I try to move the timeline with the hand tool (to advance to the next captions I want to work on) it will act as if I moved a caption ("Move Caption" appears in the history)... even though I am NOT clicking on it... only a blank area of the timeline. Sometimes, it will even draw the caption clip down in the audio area where I am using the hand tool while I am holding down the left mouse button!
Adobe, this is a MESS. It's LONG past time to get captions resolved. I've seen people complaining about it for YEARS. I've been a Pr user since 1.0 and this has never worked properly. It needs immediate attention.
New Vision Media commented
There is also an issue with how Premiere links to the SRT file.
If you make changes to an SRT file outside of Premiere, or wish to link to an updated file, the changes do not appear in Premiere. The only way is to rename the SRT file to something different, re-import and replace the original caption track on the timeline.
Trying to use 'Make Offline' and 'Link Media' (or 'Replace Footaqe') do not work.
Through discussion it seems that Premiere must create some kind of cached version of the SRT upon import based upon the filename. Clearing the main cache doesn't force it to rebuild, only re-importing a new file with a different name works.
YES! The captioning issues are such a time waster. I keep having to work around Premiere's weaknesses instead of having Premiere make my work easier.
The Davinci Resolve promo video keeps echoing through my mind as I work on my projects in PR, "It [Resolve] just works." This is obviously a jab at PR and one its users can identify with.
Everything can fix it.Normally I use Subtitle Edit and Export .SRT to Premiere Pro CC 2019. Now I just found how to add How to add Subtitle to Premiere Pro with Xml. Why Xml it easy too editing and no problem such as edge bleeding, linespace because If you import subtitle with Xml (not .srt) in premiere pro, It will be a graphic (Essential Graphic).
This is how to import Subtitle from Subtitle Edit to Premiere Pro
1. In Subtitle Edit you just Save as with format Final Cut Pro Xml << Only this format
2. Premierer Pro Import with Xml normally and then you have timeline subtitle with graphic text
3. create master style text what you want..
Oliver Crockett commented
12. Not updating caption edits in the project window without restarting, or doing the "Modify" trick.
ADOBE PLEASE FIX CAPTIONS
Scottz Lip commented
same problem seen for 2. Duplicate
Avinash Lobo commented
I've added more things to this list here:
Matt Young commented
This problem is independent of any asset format/codec. If you've followed my steps, then you'll see that everything I've outlined is independent of an actual clip of any size/wrapper/codec, etc.
Kevin Monahan verified the bug at the following link: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2638080
Can you really not recreate this? When you follow my steps exactly, you get open captions burned into the exported file via AME?
Please let me know what you've found.
Adobe Staff - Nate commented
I need some more specifics from you if possible. What format/codec are you editing. I have tried multiple formats/codecs to attempt to reproduce what you are seeing. I am missing some information to specifically target the failure case you are experiencing.
I need the following information:
Are you using Smart Render?
The easiest and most efficient way to resolve this is to send me your project. I have discovered/written many bugs on this specific failure case. Clearly, there is still one that needs resolution. I appreciate your time spent writing steps. That does help but I am not seeing what you are seeing.
Matt Young commented
A clarification I've noticed regarding issue 1 from Pierre's list:
With Premiere 13.1.3 it's still not possible to export a sequence with open captions using Encoder if there are any dynamically linked AE clips in the sequence you're trying to export.