Everything wrong with Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2. Let get captioning fixed asap!
Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2 have several problems.
(Windows10. May be different on Mac.). Here is a thread of all of the problems I've found in captions so far. While there are several threads already that point out individual issues, I'm hoping that bringing all of the issues together in a single mega thread will help get captions Adobe's prompt attention. Here we go!
NO BURN IN: Exporting a video through Media Encoder doesn't burn in captions even if the "Burn Captions Into Video" option is selected in Premiere Pro's Export Settings. The captions only get burned in if the video is exported directly through Premiere Pro.
DUPLICATES: If a captions file is duplicated in the project window, any changes done to the duplicate don't appear in the Program Monitor. In order to have changes appear, Premiere Pro needs to be restarted.
SELECT ALL: The Captions window is missing the standard CTRL-A keyboard shortcut to easily select all captions at once. This strange omission makes it unnecessarily difficult to select all the captions in a clip to make global appearance changes.
LEADING CONTROL: Captions need an easy way to control the space between lines, such as a Leading control that can work on individual captions, or all of the selected captions at once. (See illustration “Captions 1”) The current "Set Vertical Position (%)" option only works on a single caption at a time and requires the user to manually select the text in the second line. This takes far more time and effort than it should for something so simple.
DEFAULT LEADING: The default leading in captions is far too large and therefore ugly. The default leading between caption lines should be reduced to an aesthetically pleasing amount (See “Captions 2”)
KERNING CONTROL: The Captions window is also missing a way to control the spacing between characters in a caption. A Legacy Titler-style Kerning control is needed for Open captions.
MOTION SETTINGS: Copy/pasting the Motion settings of one captions clip to another in the Timeline does not work.
OFF-CENTER: By default, captions are off-center to the right by 5 pixels. When using captions in a narrow format video (1x1, 4x5, etc.) in which captions can stretch out to the edges of the frame, this error can become apparent. This incorrect centering can also become apparent in any sized video when captions line up with another title or graphic that’s centered on screen. (see “Captions 3”)
SPACING: If a two line caption is turned back into a single line, the space between the last character of the first line and the first character of the second line becomes incorrectly large. Even if characters are added or removed from the caption, the larger gap remains (see “Captions 4”)
MULTI-MOVING: It’s possible to select and even Shift-select multiple captions in a captions clip. So why isn’t it possible to do anything whatsoever with this selection? At the very least, Premiere Pro should let editors move a selection of captions up or down the captions clip for retiming purposes. Imagine having a video with 100 captions, only to have the client request that something be added or removed halfway into the video. This currently requires the editor to manually correct the timing of all captions beyond the change one by one… by one… by one… by one… This is sheer insanity and needs to be fixed ASAP!
BIGGER HANDLES: Captions and handles remain the same tiny size in the Timeline, no matter how much the video track is expanded. This makes it all too easy for users to accidentally move the captions clip itself when trying to retime a caption/handle. Captions and handles should grow accordingly when increasing the size of the video track they’re on. (see “Captions 5”)
Do you know of any captioning issues I missed? If so, please add them to the list!
Please vote and comment to help get Adobe’s attention on this matter!
In this day and age of Facebook/Instagram videos, open captioning has become a must. We need captioning tools that work properly asap!
Thanks again for the feedback. We have made sure to have created items in our database for all actionable items. We are hoping you will be pleased by some of the changes we have made in future releases. Please continue to engage with us.
Note that in the future, while this list is awesome, it is much easier for us to change status on completed items if they are single entry.
We may close this one eventually but will keep the other individually tracked items open with status
Hi Clifton, Adobe will soon be completely overhauling the captioning tools. You can take a look at the new version in the public Premiere beta. Hopefully it will solve most of our issues. :)
Clifton B commented
Captions are so absolutely broken, I'd love to see a ton of changes here. The fact that duplicating a set of captions and editing the duplicate somehow also changes the original make zero sense. What's the point of a duplication then?
The text entry boxes are equally painful. Up and Down arrows switch boxes, which might make sense from en engineering standpoint, but it's not how humans interact with multi-line text boxes. We've been using those keys for decades to move the cursor, and our behavior isn't changing for this weird decision.
Ctrl+Backspace doesn't delete entire words like it does in all modern software; instead it inserts a weird box character like in old Microsoft applications, and even MS has figured out that's a bad idea by now.
PLEASE do some live usability testing with this, Adobe. I'll let you watch me use your weird antiquated captioning tool and offer a ton of usability advice if it helps. Like, for free. usually I'm the one doing the research, but I'm too angry to let this slide. It feels like I'm using Unity here, not an industry standard design application.
Steven Probets commented
Glad to see these subtitles getting attention in the Beta! At long last!
Juan Menendez commented
I posted here almost a year ago and this hasn't been fixed. Doesn't surprise me when dealing with Adobe, to be honest. I've just decided to move on from Premiere into Avid since then, and now I'm turning off notifications for this post because I know this will never get fixed.
Steven Probets commented
Subtitles and Project Manger are the most complained about and the most neglected bits of this software. The two parts of Premiere that are literally dinosaurs!
Alek Kalinowski commented
Captions are absolutely insane and have been for SO long. Why? Is there something that just isn't able to be coded? Is there someone you can hire just to fix captions? Is it impossible?!
On top of all the problems listed (off centered captions drive me crazy) NOW every time I make AND SAVE changes to caption, when I open the project up again the captions will be completely random. They will be different sizes, have an outline when they didn't before, be off centered AGAIN...
It's so frustrating.
Guilherme Scartezini de Bortolli commented
Yes, this caption issues are driving me nuts as well. Every alteration i make i have to quit and open again to have it working.
Gil Saigo commented
Hi Adobe, it is September of 2020.
Please fix PP captions.
I'd like to add, on top of all the problems mentioned so far which are all equally important and frustrating, that Premiere in general doesn't accept arabic text well at all. Since I failed to fix a caption line which for some reason was stuck to the right and partially cut off screen, with no option to change the x factir, I tried to replace that line with a text layer from the essential graphics panel. There, the text got reversed and I found no option to reverse it back in the program, so I went to a site that does that for you. Now, in Arabic the order of the letters affects the way they are designed, and the site did well on that. But when I pasted it back to premiere, the letters were in the right order but in the wrong, previous design!
Now I'm simply stuck, and it's due tomorrow.
Just think about my workflow here and I hope you'll understand how bad it is. This deserves cussing which I am holding in, but letting you know about.
Captions are an essential aspect of video editing, I'm sure you at Adobe know that. Please, FIX IT
Adam Marsh commented
Number 10 in the original post!!! Please fix that
Maxim Ford commented
Do Captions in english export to translate. Translation fails to import most be srt file convert to srt import....half subtitles dont work, timing off
what a mess.
ENCORE ten years ago did lovely subtitles for dvd
12. When working on captions, deselecting the captions clip in the Timeline (or selecting any other clip) makes all of the captions disappear from the Captions window. An empty captions window is of zero benefit to editors and is an annoyance since it gives editors the added step of having to re-select the captions clip in the Timeline before they can continue to work on captioning.
My suggested solution is simple. Please always keep captions visible in the Captions window, whether the captions clip is currently selected in the Timeline or not. If the Timeline has more than 1 captions clip, keep the last selected captions clip visible until the editor manually selects another one, or one gets selected automatically through "Selection Follows Playhead".
My official FR for this idea is here: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41103982-always-keep-captions-visible-in-the-captions-windo
Since version 13.1.2 when I posted this (now at v14.3.1), points 1, 4 and 9 above have been fixed. Point 5 is no longer an issue since it's so easy to fix. Thank you for listening Adobe!!!! Hopefully the remaining 6 points can be fixed in due time. :)
Joseph Conte commented
Still cannot select multiple line of captions at the same. Its either move everything or move one. Please fix ASAP.
In 14.2 captions at least export and appear burnt in when using Media Encoder.
There is a bug with the export settings window however. Captions still don't appear in the preview in Premiere or in Media Encoder. I had to do a few short test exports before I trusted the process.
Captions have been around for a while now but because they are so buggy I only ever use them on long videos where it's quicker to import an SRT file. Text layers are much more predictable for shorter videos. It would be nice to be able to trust that captions will work. It has taken me several years to even bother with them because of repeated bad experiences.
some issues appear to have been fixed.
Kieran Coyne commented
I'm also having trouble exporting captions. Most recently, when I export the captions and then test the exported file in my timeline, only the first 38 seconds of captions actually show up. Anyone experience this and have a solve?
Joel Powley commented
If I didn't have to click and drag the IN and OUT points for each caption line, I would be a much happier person. Just add quick action buttons to set IN and OUT times per line of text. Auto set in point here, auto set out point here. please find ways to redesign captions so this tool is easier to use so we can all spend less time here. Accessibility is important but it shouldn't take all day to do this.
Amar Mitra commented
There are third-party plugins for this now. Adobe clearly doesn't understand priorities, anyone. Resolve it is.
Jo Twelli commented
I like to re-use captions from a previous project in a new one to keep the formatting (which involves two languages, English and Chinese, and therefore also two fonts). I learned that you have to duplicate the caption file in the project window, not in the timeline, otherwise changes to the new clips will also affect the old one. So far so good.
When I import the duplicated clip into a new project, the fonts are still there, great. The formatting is a bit off, need to adjust the anchor a bit, etc. Minor issues. Now, obviously the captions need new wording and the placements need to be changed. Here is what I wish for (some suggestions are the same as in the opening post)
- Make it easy to copy and paste individual captions in the clips, keeping the formatting, or, when using the Add Caption function, create a duplicate of the current caption, not a blank one
- Make the caption handles bigger, also adjust the height of the captions when adjusting the height of the clips
- Add a function to lock the clip while still allowing to move the captions, accidentally moving the clip happens all the time, very annoying
- add functions to make captions snap to playhead or start of video clips, etc.,
- Make it possible to move captions along the timeline with arrow keys etc. Using the mouse is unnecessarily time-consuming
- Make it possible to jump from caption to caption with keyboard shortcuts
- Make it possible to select all captions (all captions after a specific point) and move them in the timeline
- (from another poster further down below) When editing text in the Captions window, keystrokes like Home and End don't take you to the beginning or end of your text but the *entire* list of captions. (That's completely wrong and needs to be fixed)
- A minor thing, would be nice if the font size in the edit window could be changed too, too small for my old eyes, easy to miss typos
That's all for now. :)
Frank Koppelmans commented
Why can't we copy and paste captions on the timeline, as to make a duplicate and alter the text.
Why can't we move this caption on the timeline, and all after it, later in time. Now it's one by one starting at the back to make room??? Or cutting the captiontrack and move the last part of it.
Positioning the caption should be like motion, in pixels not %, on Y and X axle.
The weirdest things happen when adding a caption, it is in a different position on screen, not centred,
If you have two srt files after each other on the captions track, their timecodes are faulty. This is probably true when a caption track is moved in time, the time of the text in the captions stay the same.