Everything wrong with Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2. Let get captioning fixed asap!
Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2 have several problems.
(Windows10. May be different on Mac.). Here is a thread of all of the problems I've found in captions so far. While there are several threads already that point out individual issues, I'm hoping that bringing all of the issues together in a single mega thread will help get captions Adobe's prompt attention. Here we go!
NO BURN IN: Exporting a video through Media Encoder doesn't burn in captions even if the "Burn Captions Into Video" option is selected in Premiere Pro's Export Settings. The captions only get burned in if the video is exported directly through Premiere Pro.
DUPLICATES: If a captions file is duplicated in the project window, any changes done to the duplicate don't appear in the Program Monitor. In order to have changes appear, Premiere Pro needs to be restarted.
SELECT ALL: The Captions window is missing the standard CTRL-A keyboard shortcut to easily select all captions at once. This strange omission makes it unnecessarily difficult to select all the captions in a clip to make global appearance changes.
LEADING CONTROL: Captions need an easy way to control the space between lines, such as a Leading control that can work on individual captions, or all of the selected captions at once. (See illustration “Captions 1”) The current "Set Vertical Position (%)" option only works on a single caption at a time and requires the user to manually select the text in the second line. This takes far more time and effort than it should for something so simple.
DEFAULT LEADING: The default leading in captions is far too large and therefore ugly. The default leading between caption lines should be reduced to an aesthetically pleasing amount (See “Captions 2”)
KERNING CONTROL: The Captions window is also missing a way to control the spacing between characters in a caption. A Legacy Titler-style Kerning control is needed for Open captions.
MOTION SETTINGS: Copy/pasting the Motion settings of one captions clip to another in the Timeline does not work.
OFF-CENTER: By default, captions are off-center to the right by 5 pixels. When using captions in a narrow format video (1x1, 4x5, etc.) in which captions can stretch out to the edges of the frame, this error can become apparent. This incorrect centering can also become apparent in any sized video when captions line up with another title or graphic that’s centered on screen. (see “Captions 3”)
SPACING: If a two line caption is turned back into a single line, the space between the last character of the first line and the first character of the second line becomes incorrectly large. Even if characters are added or removed from the caption, the larger gap remains (see “Captions 4”)
MULTI-MOVING: It’s possible to select and even Shift-select multiple captions in a captions clip. So why isn’t it possible to do anything whatsoever with this selection? At the very least, Premiere Pro should let editors move a selection of captions up or down the captions clip for retiming purposes. Imagine having a video with 100 captions, only to have the client request that something be added or removed halfway into the video. This currently requires the editor to manually correct the timing of all captions beyond the change one by one… by one… by one… by one… This is sheer insanity and needs to be fixed ASAP!
BIGGER HANDLES: Captions and handles remain the same tiny size in the Timeline, no matter how much the video track is expanded. This makes it all too easy for users to accidentally move the captions clip itself when trying to retime a caption/handle. Captions and handles should grow accordingly when increasing the size of the video track they’re on. (see “Captions 5”)
Do you know of any captioning issues I missed? If so, please add them to the list!
Please vote and comment to help get Adobe’s attention on this matter!
In this day and age of Facebook/Instagram videos, open captioning has become a must. We need captioning tools that work properly asap!
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Amar Mitra commented
There are third-party plugins for this now. Adobe clearly doesn't understand priorities, anyone. Resolve it is.
Jo Twelli commented
I like to re-use captions from a previous project in a new one to keep the formatting (which involves two languages, English and Chinese, and therefore also two fonts). I learned that you have to duplicate the caption file in the project window, not in the timeline, otherwise changes to the new clips will also affect the old one. So far so good.
When I import the duplicated clip into a new project, the fonts are still there, great. The formatting is a bit off, need to adjust the anchor a bit, etc. Minor issues. Now, obviously the captions need new wording and the placements need to be changed. Here is what I wish for (some suggestions are the same as in the opening post)
- Make it easy to copy and paste individual captions in the clips, keeping the formatting, or, when using the Add Caption function, create a duplicate of the current caption, not a blank one
- Make the caption handles bigger, also adjust the height of the captions when adjusting the height of the clips
- Add a function to lock the clip while still allowing to move the captions, accidentally moving the clip happens all the time, very annoying
- add functions to make captions snap to playhead or start of video clips, etc.,
- Make it possible to move captions along the timeline with arrow keys etc. Using the mouse is unnecessarily time-consuming
- Make it possible to jump from caption to caption with keyboard shortcuts
- Make it possible to select all captions (all captions after a specific point) and move them in the timeline
- (from another poster further down below) When editing text in the Captions window, keystrokes like Home and End don't take you to the beginning or end of your text but the *entire* list of captions. (That's completely wrong and needs to be fixed)
- A minor thing, would be nice if the font size in the edit window could be changed too, too small for my old eyes, easy to miss typos
That's all for now. :)
Frank Koppelmans commented
Why can't we copy and paste captions on the timeline, as to make a duplicate and alter the text.
Why can't we move this caption on the timeline, and all after it, later in time. Now it's one by one starting at the back to make room??? Or cutting the captiontrack and move the last part of it.
Positioning the caption should be like motion, in pixels not %, on Y and X axle.
The weirdest things happen when adding a caption, it is in a different position on screen, not centred,
If you have two srt files after each other on the captions track, their timecodes are faulty. This is probably true when a caption track is moved in time, the time of the text in the captions stay the same.
Victor Mayorga commented
Seriously please fix the captions. They arent working again..
Victor Mayorga commented
Seriously please fix the captions. They aren't working again..
Tyler Hanson commented
Caption support has been almost non-existent for years. Adobe responded in October... I don't think this is ever going to happen. Might just need to use other means.
Steven Probets commented
Yup I am always being asked to add subtitles and this is the worst. Neglected feature for years - yet accessibility is top of the agenda in the world of video and film!
the dudes commented
Here I am, 3 years since my last visit. Panel and functionality is still broken.
@Luftar Rama It's pretty unbelievable that a piece of software that you pay hundreds of dollars for every year has to take a cue from the free color grading application.
That said, this was my solution, I exported the captions and imported them into Resolve with the final export of the film, and then did the captions there. The Resolve tool is fantastic, it even includes a characters per second feature.
Timothy Kane commented
It's absolutely pathetic. Promised a client I could do CC. In the end after realizing how bad it was I used rev.com which does a decent job. Problem is when you import the srt file Adobe refused to see at as full HD so it's completely useless. Hey Adobe fix this!!!!! There's so much content right now that needs captioning and you are not delivering. It's a joke.
Luftar Rama commented
Take a look at how Resolve implemented captions. It's a unique track on the timeline and behave as normal clips do. Please mimic their implementation because the workflow with the captions is dreadful in Premiere.
Dorian Bury commented
It's now April 2020 and still not fixed - square and particularly vertical video formats are almost impossible to caption
Xavier Golfier commented
Please Adobe, can you fix the captions ASAP? Clients ask for more and more subtitled videos. You HAVE to do something about it.
Johannes Chinchilla commented
Incredible how we are paying between 20$ and 70$ a month for Adobe software and this is STILL not fixed. What do de Adobe Developers do besides rebranding other software that was working pretty well, giving it an Adobe Logo and stop developing it?
As many others I am swithing to other software, but unfortunately a large amount of partners still works with Premiere so sometimes I have no choice.
Please do something with the billions you are earning every year and contract some capable programmers.
Another bug that I have found in the captions is that for some reason when exporting, some letters like the v and the w look like they are bleeding ink. The stroke around the letters is not good and it seems like its all over the place.
Thomas Leitner commented
Still not fixed as of April 8th 2020. This is pathetic! Captions should be among the most basic stuff to work in any editing application! Shame on you, Adobe!
Piece of **** software. Sorry to say but are what on earth are you folks doing over there? Are you people even using your own software? How is this not fixed yet. Honestly I feel ashamed to be paying for this.
year after year, bug after bug. mind boggling how this company didn't go down the shitter already.
Nate Kan commented
First comment I've ever made here, mostly because I'm working on a project with lots of billingual subtitles involved and Adobe's limitations have set me back repeatedly.
-As someone mentioned, the subtitles are not perfectly centered and manually re-centering individual subtitles is tedious (and sometimes impossible when the X-position is mysteriously at 0% so you can't shift any further left).
-No way to lock the captions sequence in place to avoid shifting all captions at once.
-When editing text in the Captions window, keystrokes like Home and End don't take you to the beginning or end of your text but the *entire* list of captions, sending your view to the top or bottom of the list. And as someone pointed out previously, CTRL+A does not select all when making global changes (would be nice if we could save settings as styles much like we would for text as graphics).
As another suggestion for those working with captions, I use Aegisub (Free) to time them, export as SRT and then import to Premiere to finalize the visual results. Based on the strengths of that program other than simplicity, I found other things lacking in Premiere's captions window like the only Right-click option being "Select All." Some from Aegisub's right-click options:
-Add Subtitle Before/After the current subtitle and Before/After at current video time
-Join (concatenate) or Join (keep first)
-Make times continuous (change start time of next subtitle or end time of previous subtitle).
-Split Lines Before/After current frame
@Steven Probets It's absurd. I'd understand if it was a new feature but it's been broken for years.
My recommendation for everyone on this thread is to just export your project and subtitle it using Da Vinci Resolve. Their captioning tool, while it still has issues, is much more robust. It even has CPS which it calculates automatically and is super helpful.
Plus Blackmagic actually listens to its users and implements changes. Hopefully in a couple years Resolve is good enough to Edit on standalone and we can get rid of the Premiere scourge once and for all.
Steven Probets commented
We are at version 14 of Premiere and I think the subtitling feature is probably the worst part of this software. We live in an age where accessibility is one of the most important aspects of media and this feature is riddled with bugs, user unfriendly, lacking essential features and basically need a complete redesign and implementation.
I wish Adobe would stop wasting time on pointless features like auto reframing and get the core features upto todays standards and bug free!
I've been having issues with subtitling in Premiere since 2017, it blows my mind that they haven't been fixed. Honestly it's my fault for thinking that Adobe would fix anything.
I tried using them for subtitling and the edges are not centered and there are little horns coming out of the letter M. Using ARIAL for christ's sake.
And the lack of kerning control is just wild, when was Word invented, 1995?? And you can't implement Kerning in 2020?!