Everything wrong with Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2. Let get captioning fixed asap!
Captions in Premiere Pro 13.1.2 have several problems.
(Windows10. May be different on Mac.). Here is a thread of all of the problems I've found in captions so far. While there are several threads already that point out individual issues, I'm hoping that bringing all of the issues together in a single mega thread will help get captions Adobe's prompt attention. Here we go!
NO BURN IN: Exporting a video through Media Encoder doesn't burn in captions even if the "Burn Captions Into Video" option is selected in Premiere Pro's Export Settings. The captions only get burned in if the video is exported directly through Premiere Pro.
DUPLICATES: If a captions file is duplicated in the project window, any changes done to the duplicate don't appear in the Program Monitor. In order to have changes appear, Premiere Pro needs to be restarted.
SELECT ALL: The Captions window is missing the standard CTRL-A keyboard shortcut to easily select all captions at once. This strange omission makes it unnecessarily difficult to select all the captions in a clip to make global appearance changes.
LEADING CONTROL: Captions need an easy way to control the space between lines, such as a Leading control that can work on individual captions, or all of the selected captions at once. (See illustration “Captions 1”) The current "Set Vertical Position (%)" option only works on a single caption at a time and requires the user to manually select the text in the second line. This takes far more time and effort than it should for something so simple.
DEFAULT LEADING: The default leading in captions is far too large and therefore ugly. The default leading between caption lines should be reduced to an aesthetically pleasing amount (See “Captions 2”)
KERNING CONTROL: The Captions window is also missing a way to control the spacing between characters in a caption. A Legacy Titler-style Kerning control is needed for Open captions.
MOTION SETTINGS: Copy/pasting the Motion settings of one captions clip to another in the Timeline does not work.
OFF-CENTER: By default, captions are off-center to the right by 5 pixels. When using captions in a narrow format video (1x1, 4x5, etc.) in which captions can stretch out to the edges of the frame, this error can become apparent. This incorrect centering can also become apparent in any sized video when captions line up with another title or graphic that’s centered on screen. (see “Captions 3”)
SPACING: If a two line caption is turned back into a single line, the space between the last character of the first line and the first character of the second line becomes incorrectly large. Even if characters are added or removed from the caption, the larger gap remains (see “Captions 4”)
MULTI-MOVING: It’s possible to select and even Shift-select multiple captions in a captions clip. So why isn’t it possible to do anything whatsoever with this selection? At the very least, Premiere Pro should let editors move a selection of captions up or down the captions clip for retiming purposes. Imagine having a video with 100 captions, only to have the client request that something be added or removed halfway into the video. This currently requires the editor to manually correct the timing of all captions beyond the change one by one… by one… by one… by one… This is sheer insanity and needs to be fixed ASAP!
BIGGER HANDLES: Captions and handles remain the same tiny size in the Timeline, no matter how much the video track is expanded. This makes it all too easy for users to accidentally move the captions clip itself when trying to retime a caption/handle. Captions and handles should grow accordingly when increasing the size of the video track they’re on. (see “Captions 5”)
Do you know of any captioning issues I missed? If so, please add them to the list!
Please vote and comment to help get Adobe’s attention on this matter!
In this day and age of Facebook/Instagram videos, open captioning has become a must. We need captioning tools that work properly asap!
We have completely redesigned the captioning workflow in Premiere Pro version 15.0. You will see many dramatic workflow improvements. Please update to the latest version.
Learn all about the new captions workflow here: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/user-guide.html/premiere-pro/using/working-with-captions.ug.html
Natalia Grajcar commented
Resolved?! :D Caption tool in Premiiere 15 crushiing the programm all the time :D
Video and timeline bar are stucking after adding a text...
David Marcum commented
@matt young Thanks for the suggestion. I had thought it was something like that and I did mean to say program monitor instead of source.
After fuming with it for hours, I suddenly recalled my early, early days of editing and systems being so much smaller, you had to render the line of the video in the menu at top. I hadn't thought about it because I hadn't had to do that since 2002! LOL! The things we used to know that fall to the wayside over the years.
The rendering fixed the problem, though slowed down the process. But any progress is better than being stifled, isn't it?
I appreciate your thoughtful tone and answer.
Matt Young commented
@David Marcum - you mention your source monitor twice, but the screenshot you added only shows the program monitor. Is that the one you are talking about? The description of your issues - and the fact, as you mentioned, that no one else is complaining about anything similar - clearly points to the problem being on your end.
Have you updated your display driver after updating Premiere? That's the usual culprit for issues like you're describing.
David Marcum commented
I have the latest version of Premiere and it's March 28, 2021. After about three minutes of work, the timeline needle stop at a certain point. The sound keeps playing but the image stays where the needle is. So far, the only way to get it to move forward is to move the caption in the timeline, and that's after I've already gotten them into proper place. And then, eventually, the source monitor just goes blank. That's it. Premiere is done unless I move the caption box. And I don't mean move it and then back. I mean move it totally to a place where it is out of position and wait for it to get get back in the mood to work properly again.
In addition, when adjusting the style of the text, I cannot see the changes as I make them. I have to move the needle to another spot in the timeline but, again, let the needle sit there for a few seconds, and then move it back. There's no scrubbing!! That would give the program a heart attack.
No one else is complaining about this but it is not my approach or my computer. I have the playback resolution set to 1/4, and I have huge processor and plenty of RAM. I mostly work in After Effects and I do animations with countless effects and files. Nothing like this ever happens. I've even shut everything down and rebooted and...same problem. I've attached a screen grab of the project with the blank source monitor. Not loving this glitchy part of what was always one of Adobe's most trustworthy and reliable programs.
This was working so well until I needed to edit it.
Tyler Hanson commented
I wonder if this affects/how it affects .srt imports.
Gabby Torpey commented
I am struggling with the off-center captioning and its 2021. I have everything modified and adjusted to be in the middle and some captions always seem to go too far right. And when I move them to the side to align in the middle, it puts other captions too far to the left. Most the videos I create are 1080,1080 and I make the text quite large for easy reading. Is there some way to solve this yet?
Hi Clifton, Adobe will soon be completely overhauling the captioning tools. You can take a look at the new version in the public Premiere beta. Hopefully it will solve most of our issues. :)
Clifton B commented
Captions are so absolutely broken, I'd love to see a ton of changes here. The fact that duplicating a set of captions and editing the duplicate somehow also changes the original make zero sense. What's the point of a duplication then?
The text entry boxes are equally painful. Up and Down arrows switch boxes, which might make sense from en engineering standpoint, but it's not how humans interact with multi-line text boxes. We've been using those keys for decades to move the cursor, and our behavior isn't changing for this weird decision.
Ctrl+Backspace doesn't delete entire words like it does in all modern software; instead it inserts a weird box character like in old Microsoft applications, and even MS has figured out that's a bad idea by now.
PLEASE do some live usability testing with this, Adobe. I'll let you watch me use your weird antiquated captioning tool and offer a ton of usability advice if it helps. Like, for free. usually I'm the one doing the research, but I'm too angry to let this slide. It feels like I'm using Unity here, not an industry standard design application.
Steven Probets commented
Glad to see these subtitles getting attention in the Beta! At long last!
Juan Menendez commented
I posted here almost a year ago and this hasn't been fixed. Doesn't surprise me when dealing with Adobe, to be honest. I've just decided to move on from Premiere into Avid since then, and now I'm turning off notifications for this post because I know this will never get fixed.
Steven Probets commented
Subtitles and Project Manger are the most complained about and the most neglected bits of this software. The two parts of Premiere that are literally dinosaurs!
Alek Kalinowski commented
Captions are absolutely insane and have been for SO long. Why? Is there something that just isn't able to be coded? Is there someone you can hire just to fix captions? Is it impossible?!
On top of all the problems listed (off centered captions drive me crazy) NOW every time I make AND SAVE changes to caption, when I open the project up again the captions will be completely random. They will be different sizes, have an outline when they didn't before, be off centered AGAIN...
It's so frustrating.
Guilherme Scartezini de Bortolli commented
Yes, this caption issues are driving me nuts as well. Every alteration i make i have to quit and open again to have it working.
Gil Saigo commented
Hi Adobe, it is September of 2020.
Please fix PP captions.
I'd like to add, on top of all the problems mentioned so far which are all equally important and frustrating, that Premiere in general doesn't accept arabic text well at all. Since I failed to fix a caption line which for some reason was stuck to the right and partially cut off screen, with no option to change the x factir, I tried to replace that line with a text layer from the essential graphics panel. There, the text got reversed and I found no option to reverse it back in the program, so I went to a site that does that for you. Now, in Arabic the order of the letters affects the way they are designed, and the site did well on that. But when I pasted it back to premiere, the letters were in the right order but in the wrong, previous design!
Now I'm simply stuck, and it's due tomorrow.
Just think about my workflow here and I hope you'll understand how bad it is. This deserves cussing which I am holding in, but letting you know about.
Captions are an essential aspect of video editing, I'm sure you at Adobe know that. Please, FIX IT
Adam Marsh commented
Number 10 in the original post!!! Please fix that
Maxim Ford commented
Do Captions in english export to translate. Translation fails to import most be srt file convert to srt import....half subtitles dont work, timing off
what a mess.
ENCORE ten years ago did lovely subtitles for dvd
12. When working on captions, deselecting the captions clip in the Timeline (or selecting any other clip) makes all of the captions disappear from the Captions window. An empty captions window is of zero benefit to editors and is an annoyance since it gives editors the added step of having to re-select the captions clip in the Timeline before they can continue to work on captioning.
My suggested solution is simple. Please always keep captions visible in the Captions window, whether the captions clip is currently selected in the Timeline or not. If the Timeline has more than 1 captions clip, keep the last selected captions clip visible until the editor manually selects another one, or one gets selected automatically through "Selection Follows Playhead".
My official FR for this idea is here: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41103982-always-keep-captions-visible-in-the-captions-windo
Since version 13.1.2 when I posted this (now at v14.3.1), points 1, 4 and 9 above have been fixed. Point 5 is no longer an issue since it's so easy to fix. Thank you for listening Adobe!!!! Hopefully the remaining 6 points can be fixed in due time. :)
Joseph Conte commented
Still cannot select multiple line of captions at the same. Its either move everything or move one. Please fix ASAP.
In 14.2 captions at least export and appear burnt in when using Media Encoder.
There is a bug with the export settings window however. Captions still don't appear in the preview in Premiere or in Media Encoder. I had to do a few short test exports before I trusted the process.
Captions have been around for a while now but because they are so buggy I only ever use them on long videos where it's quicker to import an SRT file. Text layers are much more predictable for shorter videos. It would be nice to be able to trust that captions will work. It has taken me several years to even bother with them because of repeated bad experiences.