STOP MERGE CLIPS FROM OBLITERATING METADATA!!
Would be good to have a warning that I'll lose all my sound metadata before syncing thousands of clips for a feature, then using Merge Clips to put them into bins, only to lose crucial data that makes said clips unusable for the sound department.
And there's nothing on the official Premiere Merge Clips page that such a loss will occur.
You actually don't even need to fix them actually, as I'll never use the Merge Clips functionality ever again, even if you do claim to fix them from losing my metadata.
Do you even read these posts unless they get 500+ upvotes?
I was told by your customer service department to come here and do this.
Would be great to know if these are read at all..... What exactly are you doing with my $75AUS per month...?
Jonah Walker commented
How are there only 10 votes for this? Fix Merge Clips now!
Roberta Horslie commented
Oh wow....I just found your post as I have red files at 5K so did the transcode through premiere, then as no matching timecode for audio i had to "syncronise" each clip on time line and then merge each clip so when cutting I can go back to the sunk clip (not separate files)...I started putting locator/marks on favorite takes and the marker appears 4 to 5 secs earlier!!! Im not sure if this is now related to your post but all smells fishy. I had another problem recently that many people had posted about over past few years and Adobe have done NOTHING! I am sick of paying $50 aussie a month and get no support. Faceless. I am moving to Resolve for next jobs.
And yes, it seems as though the metadata is the only label. In PP, when Show Audio Names is enabled, you can see the filename followed by A1, A2, A3 etc, whereas in Resolve, you can see the metadata name MixL, MixR, Boom1, Boom2 etc etc, which is much clearer. Another feature for some decades-in-the-future version of PP that already exists in other software;)
After Merge clips in PP, all the audio channels read as A1, which is the first indicator that something is amiss. Then when you look closely, you can see the waveforms are also all identical for each channel. Such a terrible bug that will seemingly never be addressed by Adobe... In fact, to test my exports to sound, I now export an XML from PP and import it into Resolve to check the labelling of my audio tracks.
Hi again Antoine // my exports to the sound department are XML, OMF and AAF, and even with copy entire audio files enabled, the metadata for the audio is gone.
Instead of the Merged clip feature, I just use timelines now and have all my sync'd takes in a row, rather than using bins with clips in the source window, which is a weird way to edit, but it saves hours and hours of pain down the line.
No one at Adobe seems to care about this crucial aspect of a "professional" workflow. Seriously going to jump to Resolve now with v16, but have to keep subscribing to Adobe for all my post-house's work. So I guess they have my money already, what do they care? ;)
Antoine (Autokroma.com) commented
Thanks for this very helpful information. Sorry about the manual labor involved in fixing this issue, must have been awful.
It looks to me like something that could be solved on the exporter side. What format are you exporting so that your Sound Department read the file ? I could add the sound label feature to AfterCodecs https://autokroma.com/AfterCodecs/ (I already have multiple audio track export available!)
Is the metadata only the label for each audio channel ?
What do you use instead of the Merged Clip feature ?
Hi Antoine // when using Merge Clips in Premiere Pro (including the "latest and greatest" CC2019), the resulting outputs to the Sound Dept. are free from all sound-recorder metadata.
This makes Merge Clips a worse-than-useless functionality, as all sound departments require the metadata included from the field audio recorder to sort out their mixes. Oftentimes, wavs from the sound-recorder are supplied with multiple channels, for example, a wav with 8channels labelled MixL, MixR, Lapel1, Lapel2, Lapel3, Lapel4, Boom1, Boom2 (which one can see in Davinci Resolve, but not PP). After Merge Clips, all 8 channels read as MixL, and indeed, contain only the audio from MixL, making the outputs to the sound department unusable.
I solved this problem by reconnecting all the sound clips, for a feature film, by hand; match-framing from the cut to the source window and replacing the Merge Clip audio in the timeline. This process took days, for which I was not paid as it was "my fault" for using Merge Clips in the first place.
Merge Clips is a function I can never use, as my workflow usually includes handover to Sound departments and indeed, I tell all editors to never use it.
Antoine (Autokroma.com) commented
What metadata is missing?
Nothing here about metadata loss. Would have been good to know 11 months ago....