MOGRT - Add option to auto-update all timeline instances.
Currently updated MOGRTs (Motion Graphic Templates) do not automatically update their associated timeline instances.
To update timeline instances requires selecting the affected items, and Alt- or Option-Dragging to the timeline.
Taking a step back, making updates to MOGRTs that originate in After Effects requires a number of steps to update see those updates in Premiere:
- Make change in AE
- Export from AE through the EGP (Essential Graphics Panel)
- MOGRTS not exported to a shared library from AE must be imported through PPro-side EGP (using shared libraries saves this step)
- And finally updating sequence instances requires first selecting all intended instances and then Option- or Alt-Dragging the updated MOGRT to the selected sequences. This last step, in a complex graphics environment adds a level of risk if you accidentally select or fail to select intended timeline items.
Compare this to making changes involving an LTT (Live Text Template) workflow:
- Make changes to After Effects Comp. Save the project. Done. PPro already updated.
Requesting an LTT-level of efficiency when using MOGRTS.
More on this topic here: https://forums.adobe.com/message/10722086#10722086
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Mark Reategui
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@Annika Koenig thanks! that just saved me a lot of work!! Maybe this option should also be available somewhere a little more intuitive like from the menu accessible by right-clicking on the mogrt in the timeline.
The alt/option drag from the EGP to a graphic in the timeline option is great, but it would be nice to have another more obvious way to do this as well. thanks again!
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Edaqa Mortoray
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This would be great for non-linear workflows, where there's a lot of back-and-forth between premiere and Adobe. You don't always know what the templates should look like until you've seen them placed in the timeline.
I'd be fine with a simple way to update. Like selecting the template in the project window and choosing a reimport option.
I think this is most useful for working with templates in a shared library, when the back-and-forth process is most likely.
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CEDRIC ROBERTSON
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Fully agree with Jarie. I would not want Premiere Pro to auto update all instances when I have made a change to the Template. I like to have the control and option for reasons he listed.
So to analyse why would one have this function and in what circumstances would you use it?
You want to go back to AE to make a change to the template on parameters not published by the originator of the template?
Maybe the template was created with a font size of n and now needs to be changed to n-2.
So great, at the moment select all the clips in the timeline that need to have their font size changed, opt or alt drag onto the timeline and all of them change that are selected unless when asked if you want to do all when asked, you say yes.
Problem now, you have to go and re-type all the text source as the text will be over written by the new templates text source.
So the feature that ADOBE should add to this is that when an EG is replaced by the template, the text source contents should be updated to what the editor had manually inputed.
I personally would, in the example quoted above, would have published the change as a second template and not done the overnight export.
As some times, 2 days later, I get asked, oh, can we go back to the original font size.
So I am happy PrP does what is required.
I would like some other examples of where you think your suggestion is needed/would be super helpful?
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Jarle Leirpoll commented
OK, as Annika pointed out, it's already possible. But when testing this, I ran into another scenario: I wanted to update only the MOGRTs in the active sequence, not the ones in the other sequences.
This is of course possible if one selects all the MOGRT instances in the timeline, but when you have 45 MOGRTs, and this one is 12 of them, it takes a while to select those MOGRTs, and not the others.
So maybe change the feature request to be an option to auto-update the instances in the active sequence only?
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R. Neil Haugen
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I agree with Jarle ... though this could at times be "dangerous" to a project, there are times as the OP notes it is very useful.
So I would love this with Jarle's suggestion to make it an option for the user in PrPro to update all instances.
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This should already work. When you have several instances of the same mogrt in your timeline and update the mogrt in Ae and re-export it, Premiere will ask you if you want to update all graphics in the timeline when you alt/option drag from the EGP to a graphic in the timeline.
