Make Premiere the amalgam of the CC suite
Okay, so here's an idea that I just realized should be way more obvious than it seems to be:
Premiere should just have everything that all the other programs in the CC suite have.
I was putting together a sound design for a short film over the past few days, and I had to get rid of some noise in the dialogue tracks. I tried using the Adaptive Noise Reducer in Premiere, and... well, it sucks. The adaptive nature of it causes noise to randomly flare up at the beginning of each clip, or right after any abrupt sounds in the audio, etc... it's just about useless most of the time.
So I searched online for where I can get the best noise reduction tools, and one of the suggestions for the best noise reduction programs was Audition. I'd never used Audition before, because I assumed it was mostly aimed at music producers, and any tools I might need from it were probably in Premiere anyway, since it's all Adobe, and if they're gonna have noise reduction in both programs, why wouldn't it just be the same?
But lo and behold, I tried the noise reduction in Audition and holy ****! It's amazing. Noise was gone and the remaining audio sounded great. It's miles ahead of the noise reduction filters in Premiere.
So... WHY THE HECK DOESN'T PREMIERE JUST HAVE THAT SAME FILTER???
And once I asked myself that question, it suddenly opened the floodgates. Why doesn't Premiere just have everything?
I understand that Audition and After Effects and Photoshop, etc, are all necessary programs for many people who don't need everything all in one. Visual effects artists only need what After Effects offers. Photographers only need what Photoshop or Lightroom offers. Music producers only need what Audition offers, and so on. So I'm not asking you to merge everything into one program and get rid of all the others.
But filmmakers need everything that all these programs have. It's the reason we buy the whole Creative Suite and not just Premiere. But man... it would sure be amazing if we only needed Premiere because Premiere had everything.
So I'm asking you to make Premiere the special program. The amalgam of everything that the Creative Suite offers all in one program for those who need everything and want it all in one convenient place without having to switch programs for special purposes all the time. Like if I need to do a greenscreen chroma key, I can't just do it in Premiere because the keying filters in Premiere suck. I have to go to After Effects to do all my keying. And as I explained, I'm now going to have to switch over to Audition anytime I want to do decent noise reduction.
Just put it all in Premiere, please! I've seen the odd comment on here that has suggested merging Premiere and After Effects, but like I said, I understand that there are many people who need After Effects to remain it's own program. So I don't think just merging Premiere and After Effects into one program and getting rid of them is the right thing to do. But if you JUST give Premiere everything the other programs have, then those of us who want everything can have it in one program, while those who just want the specialized programs can also have them.
I mean... I never really understood the practice of making different filters that do the same thing in two different programs that are both included in the same package suite... like, why give Premiere and After Effects different keying filters, and have the only real difference be that Premiere's filters just suck by comparison? Why not just put Keylight in Premiere as well, instead of wasting resources coding and maintaining a whole different set of filters in Premiere that aren't as good anyway? It doesn't make sense to me. I would think that it was capitalism-motivated, a ploy to make us buy After Effects as well instead of just buying Premiere... but that can't be the case, because both programs just come included in the CC suite.
It's all confusing and frustrating to me. It lets me know that whoever's running the show at Adobe really isn't thinking very well about all of this. I really don't know what needs to happen at Adobe to get things to where they really ought to be, but please please please figure it out and improve the streamlining of usability for these products. I really really would like to stick with Premiere, but when I see companies like Blackmagic putting out Davinci Resolve, which is not just an editing program, but also an advanced color correction program, a visual effects program, an audio editing program... ALL IN ONE!... it really does make me yearn for that kind of ingenuity to spread to Adobe. I've strongly considered switching to Resolve, especially once my production company gets a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4k camera, and Premiere still doesn't have Blackmagic RAW support...
Then I go and look at the early peeks and reviews of Premiere 2019, and... sigh... it's looking like nothing more than a minor upgrade with a few rather unexciting features added... Please don't tell me I have to wait a whole other year until 2020 releases to see the kind of upgrades the program desperately needs. And DEFINITELY don't tell me it won't even be there then. Otherwise, I'm convincing my boss that we need to switch our company to another editing program.
Regardless of what the answer is, please respond. Let us know what's going on. What is the plan? You haven't even responded on the Blackmagic RAW thread yet as to whether that's coming or not, and it's a thread that's been piling up for weeks now, desperately asking you guys to give us an answer.
Give us an answer. Soon.
Pierre Louis Beranek commented
There are certainly many things that could be included in Premiere from After Effects and Audition (fully agree that Audition's noise reducer is amazing and PP's is total junk)!
The problem is if it would come at the expense of stability in PP. I could, but it's still worth it, IMO.
There's many things that could so easily be added, it's mind boggling why Adobe doesn't. For example, while it doesn't work anymore on the current versions, a couple of years ago, the very useful CC Light Sweep effect in AE could easily be added to PP simply by moving the effect from AE's plug-ins folder to the 'Common' plug-ins folder shared by both AE and PP. It worked perfectly!
This was such a simple hack, taking any average user 60 seconds to complete, that I asked Adobe to simply do it for us, by including the effect in PP to begin with. Would have taken them what, 30 minutes of effort maybe? They never bothered.
Even though all these different programs are under the same company name, it seems sometimes their development teams are worlds apart. Having the teams work more closely together to port each programs most useful tools into Premiere wouldn't just benefit PP users, but users of each individual program in the long run. The best example I can think of to illustrate this is how each program handles fonts. It's a total disaster. Some programs show you a proper font list with an actual example of each font. Others don't. Some programs let you select favourites. Others don't. And on and on. It should just be one unified interface for all Adobe programs, taking the best features of each program, and leaving out the nonsense, such as the fact that the font list in AE only spans for 1/5th the height of a 4k monitor! (I already sent Adobe several FRs about fixing this. Nothing has been done to date) So by giving PP the best tools for font visualization/selection/management, all other programs could also use the newly improved interface as well!
Lets keep asking these basic things of Adobe until they finally listen!
AdminMatt Stegner (Admin, Adobe DVA) commented
We have announced a new DeNoise effect that will work much better and will be in the next version.
Well, I certainly agree that they need to figure out all the bugs and streamline everything as well, but like I said, I figure that cutting out the doubling of efforts in creating a different set of filters for Premiere would help increase efficiency at Adobe anyway. Streamlining is exactly what I'm asking for, and part of that would be making sure that everything works smoothly. It would be MUCH smoother to only have to have one program open instead of having to open Premiere AND Media Encoder AND After Effects AND Audition... that's tougher on a computer than just having one big program open.
I know this would be a long way off if they committed to actually doing this. But it's what I think Adobe needs to move towards going forward if they don't want to end up being irrelevant in a few years. Davinci Resolve already offers pretty much what I'm asking for here, and if it weren't for me being so ingrained in the Adobe eco-system right now, I'd probably have already made the switch. If Adobe keeps disappointing me for much longer, I'll have to take the leap and make the switch sometime soon.
Micah Haun commented
I agree that more audio functions should just be in Premiere. Media Encoder also doesn't need to be a separate program.
However. Integrating After Effects or Photoshop into Premiere would almost definitely be a disaster. Premiere its self already runs poorly enough so I'm 100% sure that trying to combine them would not go well. I agree that ideally everything would be under one roof, but that's a huge project and everything else is already such a mess that I'd rather see them improve the individual programs first.
Forgot to mention Media Encoder. Why is it a separate program? Just have it be a panel within Premiere that operates as a background process.