Woohoo!!!!

Hello everyone!

We have made some recent enhancements to copy and paste behaviors in Premiere Pro Beta. New options are now provided for pasting items to the same track as requested in this thread.

This new feature is accessible in current beta builds of Premiere Pro. Creative cloud subscribers have access the beta versions if they’d like to check this out and provide feedback.

In past versions, when pasting items in a Timeline, Pr referenced the track targeting settings to determine where items were pasted.
Some users preferred this behavior while others expressed a preference to always paste items to the same (originating) track. We have assigned new default paste shortcuts that will change the default behavior to always paste to the same track.

We have recently introduced 4 new Timeline panel specific keyboard shortcuts.

Paste to Same Track
Once assigned, this new keyboard shortcut will always paste items in the Sequence to the Same Track the item was copied from.
 
Paste Insert to Same Track
Similar to Paste to Same Track, this Keyboard shortcut can be used to perform a ripple (insert) paste operation.
 
Paste to Target Track
This new K/S provides the same behavior os legacy copy and paste operations. The Paste to Target Track command will paste according to the lowest targeted track(s).
 
Paste Insert to Target Track.
This new K/S can be used to create an additional keyboard shortcut that provides the same behavior os legacy copy and paste insert operations. The Paste Insert to Target Track command will perform a ripple paste (insert) operation according to the lowest targeted track(s).
 
Note: All four of these functions can be assigned to keyboard shortcuts providing the ability to paste to the same track or according to track targeting.  These shortcuts override the legacy application wide default copy paste keyboard shortcuts when the Timeline Panel is active and can be accessed from the

We are looking forward to getting some feedback and working towards getting this feature into a new release of Premiere Pro soon!

Wes

I don't know programming, but this seems like it would take 2 days to code max and yet....

I am running into the same situation so often! It's 2021 Adobe! This has been under review for almost 3 years at this point.

Yup, Excalibur is going to change how editors work with Premiere Pro! Imagine if there was someone like the creator of Excalibur in Adobe's team!

At least the wait is over now for a better editing experience. I'm so thankful that when Adobe refuses to help us with long requested features, other brilliant editors who know programing step in to save the day!

Kudos to Ivan (creator of Excalibur)! Shame on Adobe for ignoring such basic and essential FRs as this one, for years at a time. 'Under Review' since Dec 18, 2018? You've got to be kidding Adobe!

Pierre, this looks incredible. It's better than any new feature Adobe have released in years!

Hi Alex, it's called Excalibur. You're right, it isn't 'solved' from Adobe's perspective but it sure is solved from an end user's perspective! You can learn more about it here: https://knightsoftheeditingtable.com

A third party plugin isn’t what I would call ‘solved’.

I’m not on Facebook so I can’t access that group anyway. What’s it’s called? Where can I get it?

SOLVED!!!!!! There's no more need to wait for Adobe to fix this anymore! There's a new plug-in that just came out that allows us to simultaneously set shortcuts to 3 different pasting behaviors:
1. Paste to lowest enabled track
2. Paste to highest enabled track
3. Paste to same track

This new plug-in doesn't just provide a solution to Pr's horrible pasting, but it also provides solutions to well over a dozen other common FRs. You can find out more about it here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1638270639681590/permalink/1766467540195232

You're welcome! ;)

I think we're on the same page. Originally it sounded like you were reading my comments as meaning that I want a shortcut/preference that always pastes to the same track no matter what.

The 'unless' is the crucial part of my comment. As long as I can override the default 'paste to same track' with a single click/shortcut for track selection then I'm happy.

Hi Alex,

You wrote "What I want is for Premiere to default to the same track UNLESS I select another track".

What I propose would give you exactly that. All you would have to do is set 'paste to same track' as your default by assigning it the default shortcut of Ctrl-V. Problem solved! Or am I missing an issue I haven't noticed yet?

Pierre, I definitely agree that more options is good. However, more options implemented the way you're describing doesn't really address the fundamental issues with how pasting works in Premiere.

You said:
"Do you only ever want to paste to the same track? Assign the Ctrl-V default shortcut to that option and you're done!"

But of course I don't only ever want to paste onto the same track. I just want that to be the default because it's much more logical.

What I want is for Premiere to default to the same track UNLESS I select another track, in which case I want Premiere to paste to that track. Again, that is logical to me and it's how all the other NLEs are designed.

Adding a new shortcut to paste to next available/new track is also a great idea.

I disagree that discussing better options is going to add confusion as you say Alex. If anything, the voting system on User Voice is broken, so it makes it necessary to point out better solutions in the comments section vs just creating a new FR.

Case in point, I created a FR that includes Andy's original request, but is far superior since it includes options to accommodate all users, not just the users who want to paste to the same track(s) media was copied/cut from. My far more comprehensive FR got 26 votes so far. This FR got 258 votes. IMO, the number of votes a FR gets is not a reflection of its quality. It's simply a reflection of how easy the request is to understand right off the bat.

Short, easy to understand FR = more votes

Long, detailed, and comprehensive FR = few votes since people don't have the time or patience to go through all of the details

Getting a new shortcut to paste on the same track does NOT solve Pr's pasting problems. We need more options. My FR provides those needed options. Contrary to what some people suspect, having more options does not add complexity. Do you only ever want to paste to the same track? Assign the Ctrl-V default shortcut to that option and you're done! Want to always paste to the highest enabled track? Same deal, assign Ctrl-V to it and you're done. Want options to chose on the fly where media gets pasted? Assign the default shortcut to your favorite pasting method, and alternative shortcuts for the other 2 options. It literally couldn't be any simpler, fairer, or more accommodating to different users' needs.

For those who haven't seen it yet, here's the link to my FR once again: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41066920-new-shortcuts-to-choose-where-to-paste-on-the-fly

Andy's on the right track with his FR, but it isn't nearly comprehensive enough to solve pasting issues for most/all editing situations.

@Alex
I don't think this discussion would be confusing them, if anything it will be adding clarity. If Adobe ever action it it they'll be reading the discussion and determining what they feel is the best implementation. Otherwise there are hundreds of threads open with minor variations to a suggestion with no ground swell of support for any of them.

Really, this request is about having more powerful track pasting behaviour without the time and focus loss of always having to retarget. It sounds like we're all on the same page about not losing existing functionality -- we just want more :]

@Frank Koppelmans
This feature request is literally called 'Paste onto same track' shortcut. It is not already there (at least not without a few extra steps to deselect track targets), which is the entire point of the feature request existing.

I agree with the other request to add a 'paste onto first available track' shortcut. Make a request and I'll vote for it, but please let's not lose track of what this particular feature request is about. It can only be adding confusion to any Adobe developers reading the comments.

Hi, Paste to same track is already there if you not select tracks to paste to. I am missing "paste to first available empty track!". I hate the selecting of targettracks. I hate shortcuts.
I did not see the "paste to first available empty track" anywhere mentioned.

I understand that there are situations where we would be pasting from one track to another. A string out of b roll in one sequence where you want to copy and paste a clip into v2 of your main sequence. I get it.

However, that is not what the original post is asking for.

The post simply asks Adobe to address the default copy/paste behaviour. OP is saying to Adobe "when I press CMD+v, leave it on the same tracks unless I say otherwise".

We all agree that the current default behaviour where Premiere changes tracks without any input from the editor is wrong. So what's the solution? When we press CMD+v what do we want to happen?

In my view, pasting onto the same track as the DEFAULT behaviour is the only logical approach. It's simple and predictable which is what speeds us up as editors. It's how Avid works, it's how Resolve works and it's how FCP7 worked.

Yes, let's also have a brand new 'paste onto next available/new track' shortcut AS WELL but that's a different feature request. I would be extremely disappointed if this became the default behaviour and Adobe marked this as 'Done'.

I'm not suggesting that this functionality needs to be completely rigid and nor is the original post. If after pressing CMD+C (or CMD+X) a new track is selected/targeted then that would override where the clips get pasted to.

TaranVH hit the nail on the head. I don't edit the way you describe Alex, with video tracks reserved for specific types of media. Not sure many people work this way. Even if they do, pasting to the same track won't work anytime there's media on it that would get overwritten.
Best solution is different shortcut options. If you want media to get pasted to the same track you copied it from, great! Just assign a shortcut to that new option and you're good to go. People who prefer to paste to the highest or lowest enabled track can assign a shortcut to those options. Want access to all 3 options? Just assign your preferred shortcuts to each option and choose where to paste on the fly.

I cannot think of a better, more flexible and more accommodating set of options than this. Only having the option to ever paste to the same track wouldn't be practical, for the reasons Taran stated.

@alex Elkins
No. Because sometimes you're copying from a different sequence, which may have different organization.
Sometimes you're copying footage or sound effects from one part of your sequence to another, and you don't want the pasted media to overwrite the media that's already there. Clips getting overwritten when you paste is the super annoying thing that we're trying to avoid!

When you paste something into a sequence, it's because "I want this footage to go here." Not because "I want this footage to go here, and also for an indeterminate amount of other footage to possibly be deleted."

@Pierre Louis Beranek
I disagree with your disagreement :-)

The original post we're all voting for uses the simple example of interview on V1, b-roll on V2, titles on V3.

That should never change unless the editor deliberately moves those clips onto different tracks.

When copy and pasting clips I always want Premiere to leave the clips on the tracks where they came from.

If after copying I target/select a different track, then and only then should Premiere paste them onto that newly selected track.

Isn't this what we're all asking for here?

I get that in certain situations a 'paste onto new/next available track' is handy, but for 99% of the copy pasting we're doing we surely just want things to stay where we put them. No?!

I don't want to have to check which tracks are selected before I hit paste. That's just the same problem we're asking Adobe to solve but in a slightly different way.