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STOP SWITCHING TO THE NEXT CLIP WHEN I'M TRYING TO MANIPULATE KEYFRAMES

This is super annoying. I create a keyframe, let's say a motion keyframe. Set it to 50. Then create another one, set it to 100 and put it at the end of the clip. Then I scroll to the second keyframe and suddenly, Premiere has switched me to the next clip in the timeline for some reason. This is so annoying. Even moreso when I'm using my mouse to move the scrubber around, sometimes it juts me all the way to the end of the timeline. I can't imagine a scenario where I would want this behavior.

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  • Jack Banatoni commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    On the latest update, keyframes are landing between frames. They still move around on their own if zooming out of the effects panel. Clicking the next keyframe button often moves on to the next clip instead of the keyframe, which adds extra steps to adjust the image while seeing the adjustments in the program monitor.

  • Pierre Louis Beranek commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Hi Matt,

    I think this is the solution you're looking for: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41957968-when-editing-in-effect-controls-panel-show-clip-i.

    Let me know if it would solve your problem.

    While a agree 100% with the OP's post, it would be nice to see more posts offer solutions rather than just gripe about the problem. Even nicer would be a way to combine related FRs so they appear linked together somehow, or share the sum of votes on each one. The current voting setup on User Voice is an extremely poor reflection of which FRs should get Adobe's attention first, since more often than not, FRs with easily digestible, 'bite-sized' gripes get far more visibility and votes than longer, thoughtful solutions.

  • Pierre Louis Beranek commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Hi Matt,

    To answer your questions: no, there isn't a way to achieve what you asked for in Pr at the moment.

    I requested a solution to this problem years ago. It never got any attention. I posted my request again on User Voice recently. Take a look at it here: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41382235-transition-visibility-toggle-in-effect-controls-pa.

    My FR would toggle transitions on/off, but what you suggest Matt is an even better approach, since it would allow keyframe modification to always be visible in the Program Monitor, regardless of if the frame being modified in the ECP is visible in the Timeline or not. I'll create a new FR for this and post the link here once it's live.

  • Matt Bacon commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Here's my workflow: I like to create keyframes passed the end of a clip so that the effect has handles (in a sense) and I can quickly apply transitions in the sequence and not worry too much about a keyframed action stopping during (e.g.) a cross-dissolve. Think, manual photo slideshow and other quick and dirty edits.

    What works:
    "Pin to clip" must be deselected (in the hamburger menu of the Edit Control Window), this allows me to move the playhead in the Edit Window passed the end of the clip boundaries (I/O) established in the sequence.
    "Selection follows Playhead" in the sequence menu must ALSO be deselected to allow Premiere to behave as I described. If "Selection follows Playhead" is selected, moving the playhead passed the clip I/O inside the edit control window will cause the NLE to jump to the next clip in the sequence.

    What I need:
    A way to easily view the changes produced by a keyframe when the keyframe is moved outside of the clip I/O. For still images, I edit the keyframe within the clip i/o (so I can see the changes produced by my keyframe, then I grab the keyframe and drag it passed the end of the clip i/o).

    It is my understanding that the source monitor does not show any applied effects (which makes sense), but the program monitor also appears to always follow the sequence playhead (which makes sense and is usually desirable), but sometimes I want a Program Monitor output which follows the playhead inside the Edit Control Window, even when I move that playhead passed the clip I/O in the sequence. Can I achieve this with the current version of PP?

    Regards,

    Matt

  • Pierre Louis Beranek commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Here's an improved version of this FR since it offers 2 concrete ways the Effects Control Window could be improved through better snapping, thereby solving the problem of switching clips: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41067520-improved-snapping-in-effect-controls-window-so-i

    Please take a look and vote! The 500+ votes here should count towards that FR since it's the same complaint, but with a concrete solution suggested.

  • Pierre Louis Beranek commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    There's an easy fix to this: the playhead should automatically snap to the beginning of the last frame in the ECW. This way, any keyframe that's added will be added to the last frame, WITH THE CLIP STILL VISIBLE IN THE PROGRAM MONITOR! If the editor needs the keyframe to be at the END of the last frame, for whatever obscure reason, then they can manually pull them there. But even when doing so, the ECW still should not switch to the next clip, EVER!

    Please fix this Adobe!

  • Jazmine Overcashier commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I have the "pin to clip" selected but it still doesnt stay on the clip. It jumps to the end of the timeline when I'm in effect controls. I've never had a problem until just today. What changed??

  • Loren Miller commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    As mentioned elsewhere, you can wire an empty key (I use the Y key) and map it to the menu item "Selection Follows Playhead." On tap per session does the trick.

  • Monte Simard commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Adding my two cents: This problem could be solved by handling keyframe snapping the way After Effects handles it. In AE if you shift-drag a keyframe towards the end of the clip, it snaps to the start of the last frame, but if you shift-drag passed the end of the clip, it snaps to the end of the clip. Something like "Snap to start of last frame of clip" could be a checkbox in Premiere Pro's preferences.

  • Andrew commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This can be solved easily but just making "Selection follows playhead" a manual function.

  • Matt Lyon commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I would also suggest implementing an "add start and end keyframe for selected parameter" feature. This is one of the handiest command in Avid Media Composer's effects editor, imho.

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