AutoPatch track selection and dragging source to timeline track selection
For me, the most frustrating aspect of moving to Premiere from Avid is how you patch / select source and program tracks. It would be incredible if there was a preference to auto-patch, as in Avid... Well, if I'm being honest it'd be great if you just completely ripped the Avid model off, because it's just one of those areas that makes a lot more sense in Avid. Meaning, If I have a source That has 1 video track and 2 audio tracks, and a timeline with 8 video tracks and 8 audio tracks, If I select video track 5 on my timeline, the source V1 selection automatically hops up to track 5. I can also simply drag from the track 1 source and point it to the timeline track I want to send it to. Quick, intuitive, and efficient. I'm beginning to love Premiere, but this is a real area of frustration in a very crucial part of the interface.
Sara Corrigan commented
Since this was posted - is there any way to auto batch patch audio? Or are we all still doing this manually? Thanks!
Marion Hücherig commented
Auto-patching is a very helpful tool, it saves time and you don't have to keep clicking back and forth. This is really very annoying in Premiere Pro.
Only need to toggle the targets for copy/paste but otherwise I’m in agreement with you.
Deselect all tracks and individual track selection (based on which of source or program has focus) rather than the current arrangement more important to me than new paste shortcuts. Others will disagree.
James Clark commented
Hey Trevor, are you referring to the 'toggle all source video tracks', 'toggle all source audio tracks', 'toggle all target video tracks', and 'toggle all target audio tracks' commands when you say there's already a 'deselect all'? Or am I missing out on something?
If you are referring to those, that is indeed the best equivalent that currently exists in Premiere to a 'deselect all tracks' command and is what I use right now, but it's not the same thing as a deselect all tracks command. For one thing, it's separated in to four commands divided in to video and audio toggles, and also source and target. Additionally, they're toggles, meaning you have to know the current state of the toggle first in order to use any such command effectively.
If you have say 5 target video tracks with some of them activated, but not all, and you want to deactivate all of them at once with the keyboard, you have to first toggle all target video tracks once, which will ACTIVATE, not deactivate, all of them at once, and then press it again to deactivate. This is only one extra keypress, but it gets messy especially if it looks like all tracks are selected but there's actually just one somewhere that you missed resulting in an unexpected outcome and temporary confusion. On top of the you have to do the same procedure over again for the audio. Also because they're separated in to 2 sets of controls for source and target, it's way less efficient than a system based around window focus (as with individual track activation).
Deselect all already exists for both target & source. I absolutely agree that pane with focus should decide source/target and just have one set of toggles for all the V & A tracks (well at least 12 of each)
James Clark commented
It goes hand in hand with the need to deselect all tracks, https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/35351707-deselect-all-tracks-shortcut
In the original poster's description for this auto-patching feature request, they mention you can quickly have the source V1 patched to program V5 for example, but you can actually also switch this around at will without ever touching the mouse. If you patch to V5 and the realise that in fact you need 4, or 1, or 8, you just deselect all tracks and then keystroke the target track you'd like your source track patched to. So in the example, I've just patched to V5, and then I change my mind, so I deselect all tracks, and then hit 1, the source V1 track then immediately jumps to down to program V1 or I do the same again and hit 8 and source V1 jumps to target V8. It will patch whatever you want wherever you want so long as you are transitioning from a state of no tracks being activated, to a given track being activated, so you just deselect all tracks, and activate 1 to cause auto patching behaviour. You can also activate more than 1 in sequence and it auto patches for you as well.
It also goes hand in hand with another feature I'd like to see basically copied which is keyboard mapping for track activation/deactivation not be restricted to record tracks:
However, I don't want separate buttons for source and target though. Instead, you'd have a single set of mappable key command slots for track activation/deactivation and their effect would be contextual depending upon the window focus state. Program or timeline windows for target track activation/deactivation, and source monitor focus for source track activation/deactivation.
When you combine these 3 elements: a source/program track activation toggle state based upon window focus, a deselect all tracks command and auto-patching, track patching is a breeze.
Hoping to get more traction...
@jarle, I know presets but Autopatch is way more powerful
DANNETTE MEHALIK commented
@Jarle Leirpoll, First of all, I'm your biggest fan your book and tutorials have helped me a ton since I moved to Premiere a couple years ago... But just wanted to jump in about Source Channel Presets. Yes, they are helpful given how Premiere is designed. Thanks to one of you and Dylan Osborne's tutorials I have all of my presets programmed to shortcuts and use them, but you can only program 9 as keyboard shortcuts and if you have many video layers and many audio layers (which I always do) it won't cover all the options. For instance, if you wanted to program A1source to A1-A8 targets, there goes 8 of 9 of your shortcut options. Forget about video patching. Unless I'm missing something major, it's very limiting. Honestly, I hope I am missing something because this is making me crazy. I have spent more time than I care to admit trying to fix this problem outside of Premiere with Keyboard Maestro Macros and Stream Deck buttons, but because Source Channel presets are within a contextual menu, it's hard to do. Oh please, guru of Premiere, tell me I'm missing something.
Jarle Leirpoll commented
@Trevor Asquerthian, you need to read up about Source Channel Presets. You can change the source track targeting without a mouse. I use the keyboard for this all the time.
Here's a vid I made 3 years ago to request this... no sign yet https://www.dropbox.com/s/sy71wfce2tksgbg/detailed%20autopatch.mp4?dl=0
This. 1000x this. It slows down by workflow an amazing amount when you have to manually move the source track selections instead of it patching to whatever program tracks I activate. Of all the aspects of Avid I might miss, this is by far the most important and (seemingly) most simple to implement
Steven Vincent commented
Actually, some of this is already in there. I find that premiere's auto patching if fine... it even remembers from source to source where I wanted stuff patched. Where I have issues, is if I have a sequence with 2 audio tracks and a source with 8. I have to add the extra 6 tracks to my sequence to all me to select the two source tracks I want to patch them and turn of those that I don't. THAT's annoying. I shouldn't have to add tracks to my sequence just to turn off source tracks.