Warp Stabilizer needs to be able to automatically adjust to different resolution footage inside of the same timeline. I waste an obscene amount of time manually nesting footage, going into that comp, resizing the nested sequence to match the clip, and then applying warp stabilizer, and then going back to my original timeline, and then scaling the nested sequence to this sequence size. Its a massive hassle and waste of time. Build a feature that allows it to do all of that automatically in the effect panel.
We actually fixed this issue back in the 13.1.3 release (July 2019). Warp Stabilizer no longer requires the footage to match the sequence resolution. This allows for common workflows like shooting in 4K and mastering in 1080 so you have room to reframe the shot or punch in for a closeup and medium shot from the same camera angle. Warp stabilizer will work in these situations no longer requiring nesting. It is still a requirement that the pixel aspect ratio must match but this is less of an issue these days, where more often than not you are dealing with square pixels. If you haven’t updated since the spring of 2019, I recommend you update to the latest version. As always, thanks for your comments.
I often works with UHD footage in a 1080p sequence. Also with speed adjustments. This nesting seems like a workaround and clients sometimes wonder what I am doing.
David S commented
It's not really a fully implemented feature until it can work on different media clips in the same timeline. It's the only effect I know that can't. Adobe advertises PR as being able to have different resolution etc in the same timeline, yet it really can't.
4K footage (24fps footage or 60fps footage slowed down with the speed/duration tool), 1080p 24fps timeline.
I typically adjust Smooth v. No Motion and Smoothness %, and leave the rest alone - Method on Subspace Warp and Framing on Stabilize, Crop, Auto-scale. When I remember to I turn on Detailed Analysis.
Dealing with all the nests is a pain, especially if I want to use a slip tool etc on the underlying clip but am unable to. Would be huge to get a fix for this!
Darren Manden commented
@Michael Gyori - Absolutely agreed that the footage and sequence resolution shouldn't have to be identical. Currently it's a massive pain with the nesting, and is way more of a chore than it needs to be.
Michael Gyori commented
For us its lately been 5k 2:1 on a 2k timeline, but that changes if the DP needed a wider angle for a shot and the footage is 6k 2:1. I don't think it's safe to assume any consistent requirement.... just that sequence resolution and media resolution should not have to be identical! This limitation is a huge waste of productivity, and adds complexity to the media organization, which on large projects is already painful in Premiere with the 'duplication of media bug(s)' when sharing projects with other editors.
Definitely most of the time it's 4K clips on 1080p timeline!
Jonah Walker commented
I am usually stabilizing 4k footage in a 1080 timeline, and usually do some tweaking. I would have converted the footage to ProRES HQ.
Thank you for asking this. It has bugged me for years, and always thought it was too crazy to post about. But now after I saw your request, it doesn't seem that crazy... should be quite simple really.
Not just not nesting but with time remapping and size adjustments. Seems AE is starting to get there with MOCHA plugin. Maybe they are going to roll that in prem' as a plugin too. We have to stab shots on offline's as well as onlines pre and post grade and FX so baking out shots can be hugely problematic. 'Best Prectice for one is a project bug for another. - just saying Ced.
best practice is after stab, export with setting enabled "Import into Project" Edit with newly created media.
Trevor Gauthier commented
Agreed! Its frustrating when you have to adjust a clip and you have to dive into a nest to stretch it or adjust time remapping essentially guessing because its not part of your main sequence.
It's kind of crazy, I know, but it would be amazing if we could stabilize footage without nesting.
Zhibo Lai commented
I film a lot of interview, handheld stuff in quick turnaround shoots. Filmed in 4K and want to warp stabilized out the shaky handheld feel into a 1080 timeline. The interviews tend to be long and I cut lot of bytes out. So have to nest and apply WS to every edit from a long interview is very time consuming. The other option is apply WS to the entire long interview byte, but that again takes lot of time for effect to complete.
I'd be happy, as an intermediate solution, so not having to do full rewrite of the effect, have a feature that allows user select a bunch of clips they'd like to apply WS, fling that into a background process and keeps editing. When it's all done, the stabilized clip appears either as new sequence that can now be loaded into source monitor and edit into timeline, or even better if it can work as a nested-proxy type of switch.. So Premiere essentially does all the manual work of creating the nested clips, applies WS and then collected the newly stabilized clips/sequences in a fast and easy place for editor to start cutting in.
Emilio Luis Roman commented
Re-posting because this is soooo true. I am sure many of us agree on this warp stabilizer wishlist.
"My wishlist for a new Warp Stabilizer revision:
1) No need for nesting anymore
2) Speed changes on same clips possible
3) global mute/analyse button for the blue banner warnings"
Emilio Luis Roman commented
To be fair its a feature that wastes way to much time to not be either automatic or not occur at all I hope I am not the only one that thinks that it should be unnecessary to nest footage when it is being scaled.
Full revision of the software... yes please, I only like using nesting for for organizing clips on the timeline.
And you could improve this effect of Pr and Ae too.
IT COULD BE AWESOME
Alex Valtchev commented
YES YES YES, its 2018 let us feel like it. If Premiere can interpolate 120/60FPS to 24 without nesting, all automatically, it should be able to calculate the WARP Stabilizer as well. NO MORE nesting, come on!!
Andreas Toth commented
@Andrew and Markus: I'm glad people are realising that software is supposed to **work for them** and not the other way around. Keep the pressure on Adobe and, hopefully, they will start taking action and changing their software to become user-centric, as it should be.
Markus commented: "Given that many of us have 4k footage in a 1080 timeline, one would assume that this is the perfect basis for applying warp stabilizer because it can take the additional non-visible image to auto-crop without any loss of quality when zooming in.
Instead it PP forces you to take the lossy route."
Exactly. You can workaround this by nesting the 4k footage into a 4k timeline and stablizing it there. But once again, what can be achieved through a workaround SHOULD just be the standard process of the filter itself.