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CinemaDNG

Premiere Pro does not properly support CinemaDNG media. For starters, not all versions can be imported, specifically the media coming from the Blackmagic Ursa cameras.

But even for the versions that can be imported, support for the format is still lacking to the point of unusability.

The Media Browser will not see all the clips at the same time. We're forced to go into every individual clip folder for import duties. This is untenable.

The RAW controls available are limited to Temp, Tint and Exposure. The controls that are possible and must be implemented are:

White Balance
Color Space
Gamma
ISO
Color Temp
Tint
Exposure
Sharpness
Highlights
Shadows
Color Boost
Saturation
Midtone Detail
Lift
Gain
Contrast

Finally, because we do not have access to the Color Space or Gamma, the footage comes in with a preset "LUT" applied, making the original Log footage unusable.

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  • Devon Stanczyk commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Premiere "Pro" needs to support this professional media. I may have to switch to Davinci if I get the Sigma FP.

  • Ross Wilson commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Totally agree and using "Replace with After Effects Composition" means AE only opens up a single frame not the whole sequence. Making Dynamic Link useless for anyone using cinema DNG to edit with. For now I will continue to XML to Resolve who now have Fusion inside the software. This project will be the last for me in Premier if we can't get support for this format properly.

  • Brendan commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Adobe should be pushing this as an open alternative to Redcode and ProRes Raw. They NEED to support lossy CDNG and further advance the standard with different compression ratios up to 10:1. This would avoid multiple licensing fees and create a viable open standard across industry. Until they finally do this - a lot of customers will be lost to both Apple and Blackmagic design.

  • T. Maxwell Smith commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I certainly hope this support come along soon.

    I have edited with premiere for years. I started way back in 2004 and I would hate to have to learn another platform because they refuse to keep up with the people that have stuck with them.

    I love the Adobe suite and will be making my first Feature Length Film in the next 16 months and need support for the 3:1 and 4:1 compression ratios to do this with the platform that I know and love.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Remember 20 years ago when workflows were supposed to become easier? As a user I couldn’t care less about the politics and format wars that we suffer under now…

  • Tim Buttner commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This is one of the primary reasons I've left Premiere Pro and am using DaVinci Resolve for all my editing now. In fact, I haven't edited in Premiere Pro for 2 years now because DaVinci Resolve has become so amazing. This would be one step in the right direction for making me consider coming back to Premiere Pro.

  • Vito commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I totally agree and support the cause with you 3:1 and 4:1 DNG RAW is a must with the ProresRAW upgrade you have planned to do, otherwise Final cut X is a good solution ;-)

  • Jim Simon commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    RED RAW and ARRIRAW are both proprietary. There's no reason Adobe can't work with BMD to get Ursa Mini (and soon BMPCC 4K) media working in Premiere Pro.

  • liquidblueocean commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    CinemaDNG is Adobe’s baby. Since Apple’s announcement of ProRes RAW, I could see Adobe siding with Blackmagic Design and supporting compressed CinemaDNG RAW. The request link is here:
    https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro?query=raw%203%3A1

    Compressed CinemaDNG RAW already exists since 2014 but Apple conveniently ignored it in their whitepaper. It was invented by Blackmagic Design, extending CinemaDNG, and is in their cameras and works with Da Vinci Resolve already. Maybe this is where Apple decided they needed to do the same, but with lots of the usual marketing pretending again that they are the first inventor.

    Maybe everyone here should be asking for that instead, since you're not FCPX users? I doubt CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 and 4:1 are proprietary like ProRes is. This means there's a better chance with more and more products supporting it.

    Since Apple is starting a compressed RAW codec war, maybe Premiere should support both?

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