The Setting: I am a motion designer that has made a Mogrt template in After Effects for an Editor to use on long form content in Premiere. in AE, I animated an Intro and Outro for the template and created protected regions around the keyframes and the beginning and end of the comp. At first it was working as intended: when the Editor uses the template in Pr, he can lengthen and shorten the template as necessary without effecting the intro and outro animations.

The Problem: The Editor has found over time, when revisiting the project file, or even letting it sit open overnight and coming back to it in the morning, that the timing of the template has changed. The intro and outro animations change where they appear (randomly it seems). The duration of the template clip appears the same, but the timing within is off. It happens about 20-30% with the templates on his timeline.

Attempted fixes that failed: Clearing the memory cache, closing and restarting the program, restarting the computer, opening the file on another PC with an earlier version of Pr (13.1.2), dragging the template from Essential graphics panel onto the broken template on the timeline

Our Current Workaround: The Editor has recently discovered that if he nests the templates, they do not experience the problems templates on the main timelines have. We don't know for sure if this trend will hold, but it's been working for a few days now.

This problem happens randomly to some template clips, and to different degrees, so it is a huge problem for my Editor when he has to drag new templates to the timeline and re-enter new information every time this happens. And on long form content, it is incredibly time-consuming to keep checking on all the templates before rendering each time.

I've attached a ZIP that contains 2 samples of this problem occurring (labeled Bad), along with how they are supposed to look (labeled Correct) and images of the timeline for each clip. One is much more drastic than the other, but the problem occurs in both. The Editor has some text he created in Pr that dissolves in, which is supposed to happen after the intro transition. You can use it to see how off the timing of the Mogrt has become.

Specs -

Motion Designer:

PC, Windows 10, AE (16.1.2) Pr (13.1.2)

Editor:

PC, Windows 10, AE (16.1.2) Pr (13.1.4)

As a motion design template I use an after effects composition with responsive design segments - intro and outro. When I reload the project in Premiere Pro,the outro animation disappears and my motion graphic ends with a regular cut. This problem exists since the beginning of Motion Graphic template's functionality.

Also, this problem appears when I cut a template's clip into two pieces - each piece doesn't have a new outro/intro, but it starts/ends with a regular cut. Once I loose an intro/outro segment, there is no way to get it back, other than dropping a new template on a timeline and changing all of the properties again.

I have mogrts in FHD 25fps in AE and the sequence in Prpro is also FHD 25fps. Hmm.
Ok, so what happens is that when I apply them in the sequence they always seem fine. The ins and outs works like a charm. But, (and here's the kicker) when I change the duration of the mograph, sometimes the in OR out (it's different) aren't respected and the mograph "cuts off without the animation. And sometimes, when I change the duration of tha mograph by draging it, the animation starts or stops somewhere towards the middle of the mograph (not at start/end). AND, sometimes it looks perfect, but when reopening the project the animation is cut off again. But other instances of the samne mograph works just fine. This has happend also before, on a Mac, so I think I am doing something wrong here... :-(

Link to mogrt: https://adobe.ly/300W9Gs

I put together a new workflow for some videos that needed quick editing, creating time responsive templates in After Effects and then importing them into Premiere. That allowed me to create the animations needed, and then just make text and colour changes in Premiere. It was a good workflow especially since we had several people working on this project and I needed to insure animation consistency.

Once in Premiere, the templates were working as intended, where we could "stretch" them to fit the timings we needed. So if a template was originally 30 seconds long, but we needed it to be 1 minute long, due to using responsive time in After Effects, we could stretch them in Premiere to be 1 minute long.

However, once we save and reopened the files, things changed. Sometimes Premiere "remembered" that the templates had been stretched. Sometimes it didn't, so the transitions ended earlier than anticipated. We just couldn't figure out why that happened, and we wound up having to replace the templates many times over, and eventually we had to rebuild entire videos.

What's more, we used different colour labels for different parts of the video and Premiere would forget them.

This happened across the board, not just to one user.

Needless to say, we were very disappointed with this feature because it made the project 3 times as long. We wasted a lot of time, and none of this time was billable, because it was down to technical issues out of our control or the client's control.

Those same templates we imported into Premiere worked just fine in After Effects. We came to the conclusion that the issue had something to do with Dynamic Link.

We need a way to be able to edit ALL lines from an imported .srt file at the same time...

like formatting the background, font, size, placement... all at the same time.
(As opposed to currently where we need to do one line at a time)

Depending on the change needed and the talking speed of the speaker... It takes at least 30s-90s per minute of video to edit them one line at time...

which is a huge waste of time!

Please implement this functionality... it's should be too hard to fix from a software engineering point of view.

and thank you for all you do... this is one of those "am I finally thinking about moving to Final Cut or something else" kind of bugs!