Tested an .srt subtitle language file from REV, imported into an HD timeline. Made size and style changes and exported two different ways-

1) Using Export Media dialog>Captions pane, which includes a "Include Style settings" checkbox, which I checked. Selected sidecar file.

Round-tripped it back into the same HD timeline-- no size style changes retained.

2) Used File>Export>Captions, which allows you to export just the sidecar, no movie, and also includes the Styles checkbox.

Round-tripped the export back into Premiere to see that, once again, absolutely no style changes have been retained.

How can I deliver this to the client with the approved style and size changes if they don't stick when I export?

BUG

And let's balance this with some positives:
- The File>Export>Captions only option is a great touch;
- SELECT ALL on right-click is now available in the Captions box when global style and size changes need to be made. Huge!

Much thanks!

Best, as always,
Loren

Oh, boy I've been reading the threads asking for AME to render imported CC and .srt language subtitle files-- I don't want it!

I am not yet a veteran CC producer. Like many, I've been drawn into the requirement as editor.

I have fresh downloads from REV in three popular timecoded formats. The minute they land, AME pounces on them. So I figured, OK, let it work.

Three hours later (these are all feature length files), I tried laying what was a .scc file, now a rendered .mov file, into my testbed HD timeline.

I gave it a chance. No dice. Black screen, even when the .mov file is correctly upscaled 300% to fill a 1920 X 1080 frame, Display Settings are enabled and set to the right stream. (REV works from lightweight SD files so it needs upscaling).

So I save all these useless .mov files (I am a packrat) and import new fresh-from-REV CC and language .scc, .mcc, and .srt sidecars.

This time I rudely interrupt and dismiss AME.

I place an unsullied .scc file in the timeline to review it, and voila, looks perfect and allows editing in the Captions pane AS EXPECTED.

Meanwhile, again pesky AME reloads and starts chewing away at my sidecars. Once again, I blow it off in the middle of process.

There's a setting somewhere to disable AME process, right? Where is that?

I don't use AME in any direct manner. I don't ingest through AME. I don't export through AME. Works in the background, Terrific. Keep it there and don't poison my sidecars.

Is there a five hour video tutorial explaining why this happens and why some folks need rendering upon import? Because I can self medicate and absorb it if necessary.

But, because I'm paying 600 a year, maybe NOT??

What the heck?? Help, Adobe.

Same full length .mcc file is attached so team members may inspect REV's work. .mcc format was chosen because it's the only CC format supporting true 24P, the timebase for the feature I'm working on, trying to get reviewed, adjusted sidecars out the door to the distributor.

Thank you.

Best, as always,
Loren

Hello,

Not sure where to find the community recommendation board, so I'm going to post it here. Ai captioning, oh boy, this would be a really cool update. Is adobe working on something like this? I feel if Premiere is taking an approach to appeal to people who are working in the Social Media world (hence adobe adding auto reframe, etc.) I feel Ai captioning would be great to have internally in the program as opposed to uploading it to 3rd party websites. Just a thought, if anyone hears anything about this or knows, would love to be updated on when it comes out. Thanks.

COPY/DUPLICATE A CAPTION - It would be a lot convenient to be able to copy or duplicate a sentence or a line in a closed caption item inside of itself. This will save a lot of time when we're making a lyrics caption where chorus and some verse have the same words.

CAPTION LENGTH OPTION - Most of the captions or sentences I add in my closed captions takes a long time to be read. I wish there is a way to just change the default length of a caption when you click the add a caption button. This will save me time as I will not have to stretch every caption I add to match my desired length

TRANSITION & KARAOKE VISUAL AIDS - having an option to add fade in/out transitions between captions can add some spice to my caption. Also, maybe adding a karaoke visual trigger option where we can timeframe the colour of the words to the words being said in the audio.

Selecting a certain text on a caption changes its color to default black.

I work on captions as the screenshot wherein a part of the phrase has a different color. Now, when I close it and reopen the captions and then select the color picker, while changing nothing at all, it will revert back to black. You see I have some words that are colored yellow, once I go back to those text, and then get the color picker to copy the color (because I intend to copy the color to be used in other text) the color goes back to black even if I didn't change anything.

I'm creating open captions --but you don't have a category for that.
Why can't you give us the same power and flexibility in creating these captions as you do for text in Essential graphics? I am creating subtitles and have moved from using Essential graphics to open captions so that I have the option to edit them all at once. However, as other have pointed out, we need to be able to create a style and apply it.

Also, When I create a new caption it should duplicate the style of the previous caption by default. Instead, I'm getting different placements, off center, all over the place.

And we should be able to place the captions wherever we want. Mine is restricting me to what I assume is title safe. but it's too high, especially for two line captions.

We also need to be be able to set the center of a caption to a value, regardless of if it's 1 or 2 lines. Right now the only way I can get both to be centered (without having to individually tweak each individual caption) is by creating two tracks of captions, one for 1 liners, one for 2.

I can't even read all of the reports on captions, there are so many. Clearly this portion of the software needs a lot of work.

Alternatively, you can make essential graphics editable in batches, and then we can just leave behind this terrible tool altogether.

One caption should be processed just as a standard video file.

Instead of a new "captions" file in the bin, we should create a "caption track" on the timeline.

This subtitles track would appear as some sort of "S1" track above the video tracks. It would be processed as a video file dedicated to captions, the same way you process the submix tracks for audio.

Inside the different subtitles tracks, we would be able to interact with the different subtites the way we interact with any other file in the timeline : multiple selections with shift, selection of everything after with "A", etc... without having to double click on the captions file in the timeline in order to move one subtitle at a time.

This way, we could have multiple subtitles tracks, easy to access and waaaaaay easier to manage.

The way it is now, I don't see a reason for anyone to use the captions except for "I don't have any other solution right now".

I beg you, change this as a priority.

It would really make Premiere Pro so much better. There is no need in improving the actual tool if you don't fundamentally change the way we interact with it.