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Current workflow for network delivery is export 1080/23.98 ProResHQ master from competitor's NLE, Rewrap and embed 608/708 CC using CineXtools. Files have been checked on various waveform monitors, Telestream Switch and Quicktime player. All show embedded CC correctly.

Network then imports captioned master file into Premiere Pro v14.7 for formatting. From this point, 708 captions are incorrect. They are at the top of screen rather than where originally placed, the text color is grey instead of white, many characters (particularly apostrophes) are incorrect, and entire blocks of captions are missing.

In Premiere Pro v13, both 608 and 708 captions playback correctly.

Looking for a workflow/workaround or software revision that corrects this in version 14.

I can provide a sample file to Adobe via DM if desired.

Working with a co-editor in a different state, I have noticed that if he changes captions in his project, the captions no longer show up for me. The clips show up in the timeline, they don't indicate they are offline, and I can open the captions panel, but it will not show on the program/source monitors or export. I have tried everything (relinking the srt, having him send his new srt, toggling the captions view, etc.) but nothing fixes the problem, so I have to make a new srt and manually type everything in. for multiple hour-long episodes, it is a pain.

On his end, he can see any changes that I make, so it may be that it can read from PC to Mac but not the other way around. Additionally, the files work fine if none of the captions were moved/formatted in the file itself, so cutting and rearranging the clip on the timeline works fine.

If there is a workaround, I'd love to hear it, but a fix in an update would also be welcome.

Hello,
Subtitles have been driving me crazy and I thought the problem was me, but something was weird.

Basically, in a pretty normal work flow, closing and re-opening Premiere speeds up the subtitles by 1XX% on the timeline, which is a huge pain to fix afterwards.

I have finally understood how to reproduce this bug and down below I posted 2 videos to explain exactly how to reproduce and hypothesis on what is happening

First, let me say that in Asia, a majority of YouTube content contains subtitles "burned into video". So this is definitely a critical feature that everyone needs to use all the time. I live in Taiwan and all my videos have subtitles burned in the video.

With Premiere, I made a very simple demo of my work flow:
I record a video in 23.976fps, which is totally normal, I upload first to YouTube, and type subtitles with the subtitle tool from YouTube, which is user friendly. Note that any other tool would do the same.
I download the subtitles, and inject them back in my video on Premiere. Note that SRT files don't have any FPS concept. They are purely text files containing timing information. 1 second is equal to 1 second and that's it.

I export again the video by doing "burn into video". Note that it's showing a locked dropdown to 25fps for the subtitles, which is weird. Just burn them at the time I indicated in the SRT file, will you?

The video exported is correct. BUT I found out that if I close Premiere, and re-open again, the subtitles on my timeline are now messed up!!!!!
For the technical aspect of it, I believe that Premiere has a bug during the render operation, which takes my subtitles and speed them up somehow from 23.976fps to 25fps, and applies those changes to the timeline, but those changes are only taking effect if Premiere is closed. This is just a hypothesis, but time-wise, it makes sense. It's basically speeding up the subtitles by 104% or something like that.

I have made 2 videos to demonstrate this.

First video is the original video, 10 minutes (no need to watch it all, just the beginning and end have something), and I have put 1 subtitle at the beginning, and some subtitles at the very end (at 10 minutes). You can see the original subtitles are correctly timed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXnn1TCP58Y

The second video is my process of downloading the subtitles, putting them on premiere, exporting, closing Premiere, reopening and seeing that it's now broken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5DKpcpJDZM

Premiere Pro should have unit and functional tests and lots of non-regression tests, making sure that such an error can not happen.

Breaking people's subtitles can require hours of extra work to fix, this is not OK to have such a bug in subtitles.

Thanks a lot for the attention.

(actually, open captions/subtitles...since, ironically, these captions are NOT adaptable to closed captions at present) Clicking on a Caption in the new (beta) timeline should align to the same caption in the Text | Captions window.
Currently, clicking on a caption in the Text | Captions window will automatically bring the CTI (cursor) to the correct caption in the timeline but it does NOT work the other way. One has to scroll through the entire Captions window to find the current caption (not impossible if one highlight/selects the caption in the timeline but it should really come up without having to scroll the entire caption collection!)

I find it quite cumbersome that I have to manually drag the SRT file into visual sync in Premiere Pro constantly when a program like VLC just puts it perfectly into place on a drag and drop.

My SRT files are made by a different person and currently I have to edit the SRT file externally to have a subtitle at 00:00:00:00 so that I can easily snap it in the timeline. This ensures that the subtitle is synced as the subtitler intended it to be. I then delete the first sub and there you have it. It is finally in true sync.

If I don't do this the Captions will start in the timeline with the first subtitle at 00:00:00:00 and now I have to select all and drag to the right position. This is not great. I can't add a subtitle at 00:00:00:00 in the captions either, it just doesn't accept it and goes straight to end.

Please make a function so that I don't have to edit the SRT files externally to achieve the correct sync. It should already be in perfect sync when I drag it into the timeline.